MARSH FAMILIES
DNA PROJECT
John Marsh, Project Administrator, ajmarsh@arrrg.org
3) Special Marsh DNA Projects

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1) INTRODUCTION:
2) ENGLISH MARSH FAMILIES:
3) EARLY USA MARSH FAMILIES:
4) NEW ZEALAND MARSH FAMILIES:
5) AUSTRALIAN MARSH FAMILIES:
6) MARRIS/ MARIS MARSH CONNECTION?:
7) DE MARISCO FAMILIES:
8) DE LA MARCH FAMILIES:
9) WESTERN EUROPEAN MARSH FAMILIES:

1) INTRODUCTION:

Various participants are hoping to use DNA to solve specific riddles they have been trying to solve for a long time.  Some are trying to find if Marsh families who trace back to a similar geographic area, are in fact related to each other.  Other participants have no idea where their families originated, and are hoping that their Y-DNA might match DNA from Marsh families from know areas, and that this information might lead to "paper trail" clues which will help them trace their family origins.

It is intended to include here some of the mysteries which paricipants are particularly interested in solving.  If people know that research is being focused on a solving a particular mystery, it might encourage others interested in the same question to join the DNA project.  There are a number of proposed "sub projects" within the over all Marsh Families DNA Project.  I will include details of these here as things develop.

If you are a Marsh, and have a "riddle", or "brick wall", or "mystery" which you would like to tackle with use of DNA, please let me know. 

2) ENGLISH MARSH FAMILIES:  

CAMBRIDGESHIRE MARSH FAMILIES:

There are a number of Cambridgeshire Marsh families which have spread out around the World.  A number of these families come from South East Cambridgeshire, and trace back to the village of West Wratting.  It is hoped that the DNA Project will determine if the Marsh families from this geographic location are related. 

Trees for various Cambridgeshire Marsh families are being prepared for inclusion on this web site.  See the following...

Burwell Marsh families:  http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreesBurwellMarshes.htm   Marsh families associated with Burwell

West Wratting Marsh Families:  http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreesWestWrattingMarshes.htm ***  (Marsh families tracing back to West Wratting)    Several descendants have been DNA tested.
See also the Marsh family from Ashdon Essex, 6 miles from West Wratting, as there is a possible connection between these families.

Pampisford Marsh families:  http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreesPampisfordMarshes.htm *** (Marsh families associated with Pampisford- same family associated with Mims, Darkes, & Hackney, Middlesex, and Waresley Hundingdonshire)  So far, no male line descendants have been positively identified.  If anybody know of any living lines of this family, please contact John Marsh ajmarsh@arrrg.org . This family would be a particularly interesting one to DNA test.

Soham Musick Families: http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeMusickFamilySohamCambridgeshire.htm ***  (Musick/ Mursick/ Mersick could perhaps derive from "Mersc" which is an old spelling of Marsh.)  A Cambridgeshire Marsh has been found to have some similarity in  DNA with a Musick.  However, as more DNA markers were tested, it looks unlikely that this Musick and Marsh family are related since surnames have been used.  They do have some similarities in DNA, so perhaps they share some regional/ tribal common origins prior to surnames, if both families originated in the Cambridgeshire fens/ marshes.   Some speculate that that particular Musick line traces to Soham, but the same family also seems to have been connected with Bedfordshire, and Huntingdonshire.

March Families:    There was a significant March family in Cambridgeshire prior to about 1800.   It seems in some cases at least, that some of this family used the surname Marsh.  It would be good to DNA any March lines which have links to the March family which was well established in Cambridgeshire in around 1500, to determine is the March and Marsh families from Cambridgeshire are really just the same family.  Some Marsh and March families have used a very similar Coat of Arms to that of a family said to trace to Cambridgeshire.    If anybody knows of any living lines of from Cambridgeshire March families, please contact John Marsh ajmarsh@arrrg.org .

Maris Families:   The surname Maris derives from de Marisco, which is also the origin of some Marsh families.  The Maris family has been established in Cambridgeshire for at least 500 years. www.marisancestry.co.uk .  There has been one Cambridgeshire Maris DNA tested, and there is a slight similarity to a Marsh family which may have been in Southern England in about 1600, perhaps Kent.

WymarcThere was a person in Cambridgeshire, seemly since before 1066, who seems to have had land interests in or near places including Weston Colville, Carlton, Fordham (near Soham), near Waresley in Huntingonshire, Hickling in Norfolk.  These places may have some connection to some of the Cambridgeshire Marsh families, and also seem to have a group of generally matching Y-DNA from these areas.  "Marc" was sometimes used as an early spelling of Marsh.  There is no suggestion at this stage of a connection of Wymarc to Marsh families, but I thought it interesting to watch out for any possible connections.   There is a Womark DNA project, and Womark may be a name derived from Wymarc.   Wymarc was associated with Count Alan of Brittany, who held many lands in Cambridgeshire.  Not sure if Wymarc originated in Brittany, or was native to Cambridgeshire, but seems to have been connected to Cambridgeshire prior to 1066.   (One source says..."Wymarc = Wigmearc, apparently a Saxon. name".)

In trying to trace a Wiseman family who have matches on some Y-DNA markers with some West Wratting Marshes, including matches on two rare marker scores, it was noted that one member of this Wiseman family was born at a place called East "Wymer", in Norfolk, (which may be somewhere near Norwich?).  Given that Wymarc seemed to have the "eastern" parts of his estates east of Norwich, it is interesting to speculate if Wymarc and Wymer could be connected, as "marc" and "mer" can have similar meaning.

NOTE: I recently learned "Wymarc" was a woman, a Breton lady.  Her sons may have used the name Wymarc as a surname, as she was was a higher status person than her husband, but there is no evidence the surname continued.  Perhaps she was related to Alan Count of Brittany?  Coincidental that she was associated with areas associated with Marsh families.  I currently am doubtful there is a connection, but something to watch for.
 

http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/cambridgeshire1.html (Domesday book for Cambridgeshire)  (Note according to the Domesday Book, "Wymarc" held land at Weston Colville and Carlton, and Fordham.  (Wymarc, with variations such as Wigmarc, Wymarca, Wigmearc and Wimarca, also modern variant Womack, see http://www.womacknet.net/cherrygrove.htm )  Marc was sometimes a variant of de Marcq/ de Marisco/ de Mersc/ de Mearc etc.   Fordham is between Soham and Mildenhall, where the Musick and Powell families were, both of which have some DNA similarities to one of the Marsh families of Weston Colville.   Musick may derive from de Mersc, another variant of the surname Marsh.)
http://www.cambridgeshirehistory.com/cambridgeshire/TownsandVillages/HatleyStGeorge/ (
"In HATLEY (St. George) Eudo holds 1 hide. Land for 1 plough; but it is not recorded there. In lordship 3 virgates and 10 acres, with 3 smallholders with 20 acres. Wood for fences. Value 5s; when acquired 10; before 1066, 20s. 2 Freemen of Robert son of Wymarc held this land and could sell."  Hatley is 3 miles from Waresley where the land owning Pampisford Marsh family held estates in the 1500s.   Pampisford is 6 miles from Weston Colville.  (After the Conquest, Wymarc, the steward of Count Alan of Brittany, held Hickling, an area in Norfolk where some DNA matches with Marsh of Weston Colville have originated, particularly matches on marker DYS452, a slow mutating marker. eg Ricks/ Rix family from Ormsby is about 6 miles from Hickling.)

 

EARL'S MANOR in Waresley may be identified with the manor held in the reign of Edward the Confessor by Robert son of Wimarc. (fn. 8) In 1086 it had passed to the possession of Swain of Essex, (fn. 9) and subsequently was held by his successors the Mandevilles and Bohuns. (fn. 10) His under-tenant was named Turold and may be identified with Turold, the father of Robert Waste, (fn. 11) both of whom made grants in Waresley to the Priory of St. Neots. (fn. 12) Robert was succeeded by William de Rouen, grandson of Turold, and Gilbert, another descendant of Turold, (fn. 13) but before 1220 the manor seems to have escheated to Henry de Bohun, who married Maud, the heiress of William de Mandeville, Earl of Essex. (fn. 14) He and his descendants held it in demesne by military service. (fn. 15) In 1303 a sub-tenant named Thomas de la Sale appears, but he probably was only a tenant for life. (fn. 16) On the death of the last Earl of Hereford and Essex in 1372 his heirs were his two daughters, (fn. 17) who held the manor in 1389, (fn. 18) but before 1428 it came into the possession of William Druell or Drewell. (fn. 19) Druell in 1423 also bought Gaynes Manor (q.v.) and the two manors remained in the same ownership from that time. William Druell, probably his son, granted Earl's Manor to the use of his mother Joan Druell, alias Burne, for life. (fn. 20) She died seised of it in 1495, and it passed to her grandson, John Druell. (fn. 21) He died the same year and his heir was his brother Richard. (fn. 22) The latter settled it on his wife Grace for life. (fn. 23) On her death in 1510 it passed to their two daughters, (fn. 24) but the younger, Joan, died unmarried and the whole manor came to her sister Anne, wife of Thomas Peryent. (fn. 25) Anne died in 1546 (fn. 26) and left four daughters and heirs, and the Waresley manors came into the possession of one of them, Dorothy, wife of George Burgoyne. (fn. 27) In 1572 they sold it to Thomas Marsh, (fn. 28) whose grandson, another Thomas Marsh, sold it in 1635 to Sir John Hewett, bart. (fn. 29) The latter's lands were sequestrated under the Commonwealth, but he compounded for them for £3,000. (fn. 30) On the death of his grandson, another Sir John Hewett, the manor of Waresley passed to his daughter Anne, wife of John Hagar. (fn. 31) Their son John Hewett Hagar (fn. 32) sold it in 1765 to John March, (fn. 33) who assigned it, after 1788, to William Needham. (fn. 34) The latter left it, by will dated 1804, to the Hon. Francis Needham, (fn. 35) afterwards first Earl of Kilmorey. In 1807 Needham apparently settled it. Lord Kilmorey was still holding in 1808, (fn. 36) but it was sold by the Needham trustees in 1833. (fn. 37) It was afterwards bought by Charles Duncombe, 1st Baron Feversham. (fn. 38) He was succeeded at Waresley by his younger son, the Hon. Octavius Duncombe, M.P., on whose death in 1879 it passed to his son Col. Walter Duncombe. (fn. 39) In 1917 it came into the possession of the latter's sister, Miss E. C.Duncombe, and the Earl of Feversham is now the owner. From: 'Parishes: Waresley', A History of the County of Huntingdon: Volume 2 (1932), pp. 376-379. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42517. Date accessed: 08 February 2008.


Sir Stephen de Marisco:  Sir Stephen held many lands in the North of Cambridgeshire about 1200.  His granddaughter married a de Coleville from Weston Colville.  His son was Jeffrey Marsh.  Jeffrey was a common name in Marsh families in Carlton, one mile from Weston Colville, from about 1500 onwards at least, but rare in other parts of England.  Jeffrey seems to have had no surviving sons, but may have had brothers or surviving Marsh male lines from cousins.

Any Marsh Families anywhere in the World, who have links to Cambridgeshire, would be very welcome to participate in this DNA project. 

DORSET MARSH FAMILIES:  

We are starting to get indications of what looks like it could be a very large Marsh family connected to Dorset, and surrounding counties, and Ireland.  This is starting to get interesting, but we need more Dorest Marshes to DNA test.


ESSEX MARSH FAMILIES:

Marsh of Ashdon Essex:  Family descended from John Marsh born about 1680.  See the tree at...
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfAshdonEssex.htm
Ashdon Essex is 6 miles from West Wratting in Cambridgeshire.  There is a suggestion of a connection between the West Wratting and Ashdon Marsh families.  If speculated information is correct, John Marsh married 1624 at West Wratting to Mary Draper, had a son John who had a son John Marsh born at Ashdon Essex in 1679.  It is possible this was the same person as the John Marsh founder of the Ashdon Marsh family, born "about 1680". 

There are a number of descendant lines from the John Marsh of Ashdon family, including descendants in England, and including direct male lines in Western Australia, and USA.  Some persons of surname Slogrove are direct male line descendants of the Ashdon Marshes.

DNA testing some of these known male lines could verify if they are connected to the known Marsh family from West Wratting.  If the Y-DNA were to match, possible common ancestors might be John & Ellyn Marsh living at West Wratting in 1584, and these may connect somehow to a John Marche and John Marshe living at West Wratting between 1511 and 1533.  At this time Marche and Marshe were often used as variant spelling of Marsh, so it is likely the Marche and Marshe were the same family.

Marsh of Braintree Essex:  The large Marsh family descended from John Marsh of Hartford CT, traces to Essex.   John of Hartford was born at Braintree Essex England. http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfHartfordCT.htm***

HAMPSHIRE MARSH FAMILIES:   

A Marsh family from around Froxfield Green is of interest.  I have been approached by quite a number of Marsh families tracing to Hampshire, and more participants would be welcomed. 

KENT MARSH FAMILIES:  

The early participants in the DNA project includes a number of Marsh families who trace their origins to Kent, England.  There has been speculation for some time that various Kent Marsh descendants (In England/ USA/ Canada) might be related.  DNA should answer some of these questions.  Any other Marshes of descent from Kent ancestors would be very welcome to join the project, and learn if they relate to any of the existing Kent Marsh families being researched and DNA tested.

There have been some interesting findings with DNA in relation to Kent Marshes.  We think we may have identified the Y-DNA of descendants of a Marsh living in Kent in the 1300s, who was reported to be from an Anglo-Saxon family.  The DNA type from this family is of a type common in Anglo-Saxon regions.  This family looks to be very large, and widely spread around the World.

Anybody interested in Kent Marsh families might like to have a look at the very good web site at  http://www.christopher.ashman.btinternet.co.uk/marshkent/

LANCASHIRE MARSH FAMILIES:  

There are huge numbers of Marsh families tracing to Lancashire.  We have tested a Marsh line from Wigan & another from St Helens.  There is evidence of a Staffordshire Marsh family which may have originated in Lancashire in the 1400s, so DNA connections in Staffordshire are also being watched for.  If anybody knows of any living lines of from Lancashire Marsh families, please contact John Marsh ajmarsh@arrrg.org .

NORFOLK MARSH FAMILIES: 

John Marsh: b.1798 Salters Lodge, (Downham Market?) Norfolk http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeMarshOfSaltersLodgeNorfolk.htm ***
www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/carapook/names/marsh.htm  Marsh of Downham Norfolk, to Victoria Australia.
Alexander Marsh: b. Eng. to MA 1635 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ALT-GENEALOGY/2002-04/1018004229   see also
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeAlexanderOfBraintreeMA.htm ***

A Cambridgeshire March family prominent in the 1500s, appears to have spread into Norfolk. 

Sir Stephen de Marsico who held considerable lands in northern Cambridgeshire in around 1200, also held lands in Norfolk. 

SOMERSET MARSH FAMILIES:  

Historically, the prominent Norman family of de Marisco was established at Huntspill shortly after 1066.  There are suggestions that some Somerset Marsh families may trace to this family.  We have found what seems to be DNA evidence of a very large old Marsh family from the Somerset/ Dorset/ Wiltshire/ and surrounding counties.  There is no hard evidence to connect this DNA type to Huntspill, but it is something to watch for, given that it is a large old family from the general area.

SUFFOLK MARSH FAMILIES: 
 

Cambridgehsire and Suffolk Marshes have historically traded back and forwards over the common border.  It is expected that relationships will be found between these families, and also NorfolkMarsh families.

WILTSHIRE MARSH FAMILIES:

We have what we believe may be DNA results from a Wiltshire Marsh family. 

3) EARLY USA MARSH FAMILIES: 

A number of  early Marsh pioneers to USA, many before 1,700AD, have left very large numbers of descendants.  It is hoped that representatives of these important early families will participate in the project, to learn the DNA heritage of their ancestors, and to learn which Marsh families around the World are related to them.  Where the origins of these early pioneers is uncertain, it is hoped the DNA study may find localities in England where similar Marsh Y-DNA is found, and possibly lead to paper trail clues to the origins of the families.

Following is a list of early USA pioneering Marsh families which this project will focus on.  The list is "under construction".   All Marshes before 1,700 are to be included, and any other Marsh families arriving in USA after that which descendants would like included.  If anybody is aware of any early Marsh families which could be added to this list, please advise the Project Administrator John Marsh, at ajmarsh@arrrg.org .

In addition to the list, what is needed is participants who descend from these early pioneers.  If you are a Marsh male, and a direct male line descendant of one of the following Marshes, and would like to participate in this project, please contact the Project Administrator.  If you know of a direct male line Marsh descendant, it would be of assistance to this project if you drew to their attention the Marsh DNA project, and this web site.  Alternatively, if you forward their contact details to the Project Administrator, they will be contacted by e-mail or post, and given information about the project.  If you have any family tree information on these families, the Project Administrator would welcome a copy, as it may enable descendants to be traced to participate in this project.

EARLY MARSH PIONEERS IN USA 1600-1700:

John Marsh:
  b. Eng, living Salem MA by 1633
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfSalemMA.htm    ***
John Marsh: in Boston before 1669, d. Boston MA prob after 1695
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfBostonMA.htm ***
John Marsh:  settled in Virginia 1635 
Joseph Marsh:  settled in Virginia 1635
Alexander Marsh: b. Eng. to MA 1635 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ALT-GENEALOGY/2002-04/1018004229   see also
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeAlexanderOfBraintreeMA.htm ***
George Marsh:  b. Eng. to MA 1635? d. Hingham MA 1647  
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeGeorgeOfHingham.htm  
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John Marsh:  b. Essex Eng.1618, to MA 1635? in Hartford Connecticut by 1642 
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfHartfordCT.htm ***
Samuel Marsh: b. Essex Eng. 1626, to New Haven CT 1645  
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeSamuelOfNewHavenCT.htm ***
Hugh Marsha:  settled in Virginia 1650 
Hugh March:  to MA 1638?, settled in Newbury, then Woodbridge NHJ, and then Old Elliot (Kittery) ME.  http://genforum.genealogy.com/march/messages/399.html 
Robert Marsh: b.1610 Eng, d. Pennsylvania, sons Robert & Hugh http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=tew4515&id=I05266
Arthur Marsh:  settled in Virginia 1663  {Q76}
Captain Paul Marsh:  b. Eng.  In Maryland by 1664 
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreePaulOfMaryland.htm
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John Marsh:  b. Eng. m.1664 Northhampton Massachusetts.  http://hometown.aol.com/jcpeleg/f0000029.html
Joseph Marsh:  b.1663 New Haven Connecticut.  http://members.cts.com/sd/h/hindskw/KennethHinds/11383.html
William Marsh:  b. Lond?/Kent? in CT by 1682 
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeWilliamOfPlainfieldCT.htm ***
Gilbert Marsh:  in Maryland by 1694, d.1724  http://marsh-family-trees.freeservers.com/Tree1.html http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=:2160211&id=I110777060
( http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/M/MarshThomas-SophiaCorbin.shtml ?)
( http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=larszman&id=I1252 ?)
This family is proving interesting, as it may be connected to the DNA type found in a very early Marsh family from Kent.
Alexander Marsh:  b.1690 Aughton Lancashire, to Virginia 1698 
http://english-america.com/spls/698va005.html 1700-1800:
Peter Page Marsh: b.1764 England, d.1825 Bedford Co. VA http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=bgozbooks&id=I2036
Joshua Marsh:  b.1674? Armagh, Ireland, in Baltimore MD before 1696, Quaker Marsh family
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJoshuaOfArmagh.htm    **We have results for one speculated descendant, but the pedigree is speculated.
Robert Marsh:  b.1610 Eng? d.1689 Pensylvania
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=tew4515&id=I05266
Robert Marsh:
b.1724, lived in North Carolina
http://www.kevinmarsh.us/

William Marsh:
b.1673 Sadsbury Pennsylvania*#   http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=janisde&id=I12105  
Richard Marsh:  at Salvage, Newfoundland 1681 http://home.earthlink.net/~lkstrong/ERSeary.htm
Thomas Marsh:  In Virgina about 1650, possibly from Kent England
http://groups.msn.com/TheAthyFamilyofGalway/themarshfamily.msnw
John MARSH 1 was born about 1588 in Of, Padbury, Buckinghamshire, England. He died 1666 in Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts. John MARSH married Mrs-John MARSH before 1614.

4) NEW ZEALAND MARSH FAMILIES: 

In New Zealand, there are Marshes who descend from separate immigrant ancestors who came from more than 17 English counties.  It is hoped over time to learn if any of these separate families are in fact related in the distant past.  There are a number of these families which originated in generally the same area, and relationships are suspected.  Participants are invited.

MARSH IMMIGRANTS TO NEW ZEALAND:

Charles Marsh:
b.1864? Weston Colville, Camb. Eng.   Ancestor, John M. b.1787 West Wratting. Settled Glentunnel NZ 1882
Jack Marsh: b.1866? Weston Colville, Camb. Eng.  Ancestor, John Marsh b.1787 West Wratting.  Settled Glentunnel NZ
James Marsh: b.1868 Weston Colville, Camb. Eng.  Ancestor, John Marsh b.1787 West Wratting.  Settled Glentunnel NZ 1913
Sydney Vincent Marsh: b.1885, Northwick, Chesire.  Ancestor, Leonard Waller Marsh.   Settled Ashburton NZ.
Arscott Marsh:  b.1843, Sheepwash, Devon. Ancestor Henry Marsh.  Settled Tauranga, New Zealand.  Arrived NZ 1881.
William Edward Marsh:  b. Exeter, Devon.  Ancestor Frank Marsh, Engineer.   Settled in Canterbury NZ.
Jack Wheeler Marsh:  b.1903, Surbiton Surrey.  Ancestor John Marsh, b.1850 Poole Dorset, d. Ramsgate Kent.  Marton NZ.
George Albert Marsh:  b. Portland Dorset 1858.  Ancestor Frederick James Marsh.   Settled Gisborne NZ.
Alfred James Marsh:  b. Dorset?  Bootmaker.  Settled New Plymouth NZ 1842.
Henry Edmund Marsh:  b.1863, Stretham Eng.  Ancestor William Marsh, b., Epping Essex. Settled Christchurch NZ.  (Prominent descendant was  Dame Ngaio Marsh, the detective story writer)
George Marsh:  b.1812 Hampshire? Eng.  Settled Templeton, Canterbury NZ.   Arrived NZ 1851.
Henry Charles James Marsh:  Ancestor, Henry Robert Marsh b.1900, of Portsmouth, Hampshire.
Reginald William Marsh:  Ancestor William Marsh, Kent, Farmer.  Family from Isle of Sheppy/ Sandwich. To NZ 1967.
William Marsh:  b.1875, lived Sandwich, Kent.  Settled Richmond, NZ 1908.
Robert Bushell Shaw Marsh: b.1840? Blackburn?/Chorley?/Horwick? Lancashire.  To NZ 1881. Some family Toronto Canada.
Joseph Zachariah Marsh:  b. Lancashire, d. Ormondville NZ.
William Joseph Marsh:  b.1900.  Ancestor John Aron Marsh, b.1825, d. Liverpool 1879, thatcher. Some family Australia.
Douglas Marsh:  Ancestor Robert Marsh, b.1876 Liverpool.
Richard Marsh:  1854 Derbyshire (or Gainsborough?).  Ancestor Richard Broughton Marsh, Gainsborough, maltster.  To Chch.
Edward George Marsh:  b.1893 London.  Ancestor, Richard George Marsh, locksmith, gunsmith.  Settled Auckland NZ.
Lewis Reginal Marsh:  b. London.  d. Gisborne.  2 daughters.
Frances Cyril Marsh:  b. London. Brother of Lewis Reginald Marsh.  To Auckland NZ
Sidney Warren Marsh:  b.1874 London. Ancestor Frederick Marsh circa 1765.   Settled Canterbury NZ
Isaac Marsh:  b.1807 Lenton Nottingham.  Ancestor, James Marsh.  Settled Canterbury NZ.
William Marsh:  b.1837, Cheswardine, Shropshire.  Settled Paeroa NZ.
Richard John Marsh:  b.1840, Ramsey.  Ancestor Richard John Marsh, b.1758, Walstanton, Stafford.  Settled Auckland NZ.
Spencer Allion Marsh:  b.1904 Mellis?  Ancestor Benjamin Baker Marsh, b. 1867 Rede Suffolk. Some family USA.
John Marsh:  b. 1828 Eng (London??)  Settled Cromwell NZ.  (Prominent descendant includes a NZ Prime minister, and many members of parliament)
Robert Marsh:  b. London.  Descendants Masterton NZ.
Alexander William Marsh:  b.1897 Dubbo NSW Australia.  Settled Auckland NZ.
Lawrence Elly William Marsh:  Ancestor Norman LeGrow Marsh b.1886 Australia, d. Sidney.  Settled Gisborne
George Henry Marsh:  born circa 1870, Australia.  Descendants Auckland NZ.
Cyril Charles Marsh:  b.1887 Launceston Tasmania.  Settled Dunedin NZ.   Ancestor Cyril Charles Marsh. (Ancestor may have been from Norfolk England)

5) AUSTRALIAN MARSH FAMILIES:  

Several Australian Marshes have been DNA tested.  There is information which will be added here at some stage. 

6) MARIS/ MARRIS/ MARSH CONNECTION?:
 

Some Maris/ Marris families derive from the Norman de Marisco family.  A number have direct male line pedigrees to Rololf de Marisco, who fought at the battle of Hastings in 1066.  As some Marsh families are believed to descend from the same de Mariscos, it seems something which DNA might shed light on.  We are making progress on tracing these lines with DNA.  We have tested a number of lines tracing to variants of the surname Maris/ Marris.

See this web site with Marris/ Maris ancestry... www.marisancestry.co.uk .

http://www.maris.net/gen/

If any Maris/ Marris families are interested in having their DNA tested through the Marsh DNA project, they are welcome. 

7) DE MARISCO FAMILIES: 

One of the early Norman families to arrive in England in 1066, was a de Mareis/ de Marisco family.  Because of the seRvice of this family to William the Conqueror, the family gained influence and advantage for their family.  The family seems to have spread widely, and Geoffrey de Marisco from this family became Justiciar of Ireland, establishing the family in Ireland as well as England.   In time the name in England came to be spelled Marsh, Marris, and many variants, and in Ireland, Morris, with many variants.  We are making progress with identifying the Y-DNA of this family.

Particularly interesting is the history of this family prior to 1066.  A long term part of the marsh DNA Project, is to see what can be learned of the origins of the family prior to 1066, when the surname was on occasions spelled de Marcq, and de Marck.  I am interested in the possibility that this family may be connected to the de Bologne/ Bouillon family.

See preliminary draft of de Marisco tree at http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeNormanDeMariscoFamilies.htm

7) DE LA MARCH FAMILIES:  

There appears to have been an interesting family of de la March, beleived to descend from Bernard de nue Marche who was a trusted Baron of William I.  This looks to be an interesting family.  Some descendants took the surname Marsh.  Is this connect to the de Marisco family? 

9) WESTERN EUROPEAN MARSH FAMILIES: 

Many families immigrating to America, and other English speaking countries, had surnames similar to Marsh.  These surnames were often Anglicised to Marsh in their new home country.  So today, some persons of surname "Marsh" trace back to ancestors from these Western European countries, such as POLAND, RUSSIA, GERMANY, CZECHOSLOVAKIA, HOLLAND, etc.  Descendants of these Marsh families are interested to find what they can about their origins through DNA.  It is hoped that Marsh descendants who know they have Western European origins will participate in the Marsh DNA Project, so that we can help them learn about their heritage.

Some of the names which are known to have been Anglicized to Marsh are the following.   Please let me know if you can add any additional names to this list, and I would also like to know if anyone can help with the genealogies of these families.

See http://maxpages.com/mpbs for Polish surnames being researched.

MARUCHEWSKI:  http://www.oriscus.com/dn/gen/_marsh.htm   Descendants of this surname using Marsh as surname.
MARSCHAJW:  Poland/ Russia http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.marsh/672
MOERSCH: German name Anglicised to Marsh.. http://www.brightok.net/~lguthrie/Page334-.htm   Also from Poland.
MARSCH:  Poland/ Germany
MARES:  From Czechoslovakia, pronounced Maresh, Americanized to Marsh.
VAN MARSH:  http://www.deeproots.org/about/general/cnn_womenineducation.pdf   Alphonso van Marsh
VAN MARSBERGEN:  (spelling is from my memory, may not be correct) Dutch family took the name of Marsh.
MAISCH: Germany, not sure if this name is used as a Marsh variant, but DNA results are available for someone of this surname.
MARTZ/ MERTZ/ MERTS:  Family adopted the name March in USA. 

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