MARSH
FAMILIES DNA PROJECT
John Marsh, Project Administrator,
ajmarsh@arrrg.org
3) Special Marsh DNA Projects |
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CONTENTS:
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1) INTRODUCTION: 2) ENGLISH MARSH FAMILIES: 3) EARLY USA MARSH FAMILIES: 4) NEW ZEALAND MARSH FAMILIES: 5) AUSTRALIAN MARSH FAMILIES: 6) MARRIS/ MARIS MARSH CONNECTION?: 7) DE MARISCO FAMILIES: 8) DE LA MARCH FAMILIES: 9) WESTERN EUROPEAN MARSH FAMILIES:
1) INTRODUCTION:
Various participants are hoping to use DNA
to solve specific riddles they have been trying to solve for a long time. Some are
trying to find if Marsh families who trace back to a similar geographic area, are in fact
related to each other. Other participants have no idea where their families
originated, and are hoping that their Y-DNA might match DNA from Marsh families from know
areas, and that this information might lead to "paper trail" clues which will
help them trace their family origins.
It is intended to include here some of the
mysteries which paricipants are particularly interested in solving. If people know
that research is being focused on a solving a particular mystery, it might encourage
others interested in the same question to join the DNA project. There are a number
of proposed "sub projects" within the over all Marsh Families DNA Project.
I will include details of these here as things develop.
If you are a Marsh, and have a
"riddle", or "brick wall", or "mystery" which you would like
to tackle with use of DNA, please let me know.
2) ENGLISH MARSH FAMILIES:
CAMBRIDGESHIRE MARSH
FAMILIES:
There are a number of Cambridgeshire Marsh families which have
spread out around the World. A number of these families come from South East
Cambridgeshire, and trace back to the village of West Wratting. It is hoped that the
DNA Project will determine if the Marsh families from this geographic location are
related.
Trees for various Cambridgeshire Marsh families are
being prepared for inclusion on this web site. See the following...
Burwell Marsh families:
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreesBurwellMarshes.htm
Marsh families associated with Burwell
West Wratting Marsh Families:
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreesWestWrattingMarshes.htm
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(Marsh
families tracing back to West Wratting) Several
descendants have been DNA tested. See also the Marsh family from Ashdon Essex, 6 miles from West Wratting, as
there is a possible connection between these families.
Pampisford Marsh families:
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreesPampisfordMarshes.htm
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(Marsh families associated with Pampisford- same family associated with
Mims, Darkes, & Hackney, Middlesex, and Waresley Hundingdonshire) So
far, no male line descendants have been positively identified. If
anybody know of any living lines of this family, please contact John
Marsh ajmarsh@arrrg.org . This
family would be a particularly interesting one to DNA test.
Soham Musick Families:
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeMusickFamilySohamCambridgeshire.htm
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(Musick/ Mursick/ Mersick could perhaps derive from "Mersc" which is an old
spelling of Marsh.) A Cambridgeshire Marsh has been found to have some
similarity in
DNA with a Musick. However, as more DNA markers were tested, it looks
unlikely that this Musick and Marsh family are related since surnames have
been used. They do have some similarities in DNA, so perhaps they
share some regional/ tribal common origins prior to surnames, if both
families originated in the Cambridgeshire fens/ marshes. Some speculate that that particular Musick line
traces to Soham, but the same family also seems to have been connected with
Bedfordshire, and Huntingdonshire.
March Families:
There was a significant March family in Cambridgeshire prior to about 1800.
It seems in some cases at least, that some of this family used the surname Marsh.
It would be good to DNA any March lines which have links to the March family
which was well established in Cambridgeshire in around 1500, to determine is
the March and Marsh families from Cambridgeshire are really just the same
family. Some Marsh and March families have used a very similar Coat of
Arms to that of a family said to trace to Cambridgeshire.
If anybody knows of any living lines of from Cambridgeshire March families,
please contact John Marsh ajmarsh@arrrg.org .
Maris Families:
The surname Maris derives from de Marisco, which is also the origin of some Marsh
families. The Maris family has been established in Cambridgeshire for at least 500
years. www.marisancestry.co.uk
. There has been one Cambridgeshire Maris DNA tested, and there is a
slight similarity to a Marsh family which may have been in Southern England
in about 1600, perhaps Kent.
Wymarc: There was a
person in Cambridgeshire, seemly since before 1066, who seems to have had
land interests in or near places including Weston Colville, Carlton, Fordham
(near Soham), near Waresley in Huntingonshire,
Hickling in Norfolk. These places may have some connection to some of the
Cambridgeshire Marsh families, and also seem to have a group of generally
matching Y-DNA from these areas. "Marc" was sometimes used as an early
spelling of Marsh. There is no suggestion at this stage of a connection of Wymarc to
Marsh families, but I thought it interesting to watch out for any possible connections.
There is a Womark DNA project, and Womark may be a name derived from Wymarc.
Wymarc was associated with Count Alan of Brittany, who held many lands in
Cambridgeshire. Not sure if Wymarc originated in Brittany, or was
native to Cambridgeshire, but seems to have been connected to Cambridgeshire prior to 1066.
(One source says..."Wymarc = Wigmearc, apparently a
Saxon. name".)
In trying to trace a Wiseman family who have matches on some Y-DNA markers
with some West Wratting Marshes, including matches on two rare marker
scores, it was noted that one member of this Wiseman family was born at a
place called East "Wymer", in Norfolk, (which may be somewhere near
Norwich?). Given that Wymarc seemed to have the "eastern" parts of his
estates east of Norwich, it is interesting to speculate if Wymarc and Wymer
could be connected, as "marc" and "mer" can have similar meaning.
NOTE: I recently learned "Wymarc" was a woman, a Breton
lady. Her sons may have used the name Wymarc as a surname, as she was
was a higher status person than her husband, but there is no evidence the
surname continued. Perhaps she was related to Alan Count of Brittany?
Coincidental that she was associated with areas associated with Marsh
families. I currently am doubtful there is a connection, but something
to watch for.
http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/cambridgeshire1.html
(Domesday book for Cambridgeshire) (Note
according to the Domesday Book, "Wymarc"
held land at Weston Colville
and Carlton,
and Fordham.
(Wymarc, with variations such as Wigmarc, Wymarca, Wigmearc and
Wimarca, also modern variant Womack, see
http://www.womacknet.net/cherrygrove.htm ) Marc was
sometimes a variant of de Marcq/ de Marisco/ de Mersc/ de Mearc
etc. Fordham is between Soham and Mildenhall, where the Musick
and Powell families were, both of which have some DNA
similarities to one of the Marsh families of Weston Colville.
Musick may derive from de Mersc, another variant of the surname
Marsh.)
http://www.cambridgeshirehistory.com/cambridgeshire/TownsandVillages/HatleyStGeorge/
("In
HATLEY (St. George) Eudo holds 1 hide. Land for 1 plough; but it
is not recorded there. In lordship 3 virgates and 10 acres, with
3 smallholders with 20 acres. Wood for fences. Value 5s; when
acquired 10; before 1066, 20s. 2 Freemen of Robert son of
Wymarc
held this land and could sell."
Hatley is 3 miles from
Waresley
where the land owning Pampisford Marsh family held estates in
the 1500s. Pampisford is 6 miles from Weston Colville. (After
the Conquest, Wymarc, the steward of Count Alan of Brittany,
held Hickling, an area in Norfolk where some DNA matches with
Marsh of Weston Colville have originated, particularly matches
on marker DYS452, a slow mutating marker. eg Ricks/ Rix family
from Ormsby is about 6 miles from Hickling.) |
| EARL'S MANOR in
Waresley may be identified with the manor held in the
reign of Edward the Confessor by Robert
son of Wimarc. (fn. 8) In 1086 it had passed to the
possession of Swain of Essex, (fn. 9) and subsequently was held
by his successors the Mandevilles and Bohuns. (fn. 10) His
under-tenant was named Turold and may be identified with Turold,
the father of Robert Waste, (fn. 11) both of whom made grants in
Waresley to the Priory of St. Neots. (fn. 12) Robert was
succeeded by William de Rouen, grandson of Turold, and Gilbert,
another descendant of Turold, (fn. 13) but before 1220 the manor
seems to have escheated to Henry de Bohun, who married Maud, the
heiress of William de Mandeville, Earl of Essex. (fn. 14) He and
his descendants held it in demesne by military service. (fn. 15)
In 1303 a sub-tenant named Thomas de la Sale appears, but he
probably was only a tenant for life. (fn. 16) On the death of
the last Earl of Hereford and Essex in 1372 his heirs were his
two daughters, (fn. 17) who held the manor in 1389, (fn. 18) but
before 1428 it came into the possession of William Druell or
Drewell. (fn. 19) Druell in 1423 also bought Gaynes Manor (q.v.)
and the two manors remained in the same ownership from that
time. William Druell, probably his son, granted Earl's Manor to
the use of his mother Joan Druell, alias Burne, for life. (fn.
20) She died seised of it in 1495, and it passed to her
grandson, John Druell. (fn. 21) He died the same year and his
heir was his brother Richard. (fn. 22) The latter settled it on
his wife Grace for life. (fn. 23) On her death in 1510 it passed
to their two daughters, (fn. 24) but the younger, Joan, died
unmarried and the whole manor came to her sister Anne, wife of
Thomas Peryent. (fn. 25) Anne died in 1546 (fn. 26) and left
four daughters and heirs, and the Waresley manors came into the
possession of one of them, Dorothy, wife of George Burgoyne.
(fn. 27) In 1572 they sold it to Thomas
Marsh, (fn. 28) whose grandson,
another Thomas Marsh, sold it in 1635 to Sir John Hewett,
bart. (fn. 29) The latter's lands were sequestrated under the
Commonwealth, but he compounded for them for £3,000. (fn. 30) On
the death of his grandson, another Sir John Hewett, the manor of
Waresley passed to his daughter Anne, wife of John Hagar. (fn.
31) Their son John Hewett Hagar (fn. 32) sold it in 1765 to John
March, (fn. 33) who assigned it, after 1788, to William Needham.
(fn. 34) The latter left it, by will dated 1804, to the Hon.
Francis Needham, (fn. 35) afterwards first Earl of Kilmorey. In
1807 Needham apparently settled it. Lord Kilmorey was still
holding in 1808, (fn. 36) but it was sold by the Needham
trustees in 1833. (fn. 37) It was afterwards bought by Charles
Duncombe, 1st Baron Feversham. (fn. 38) He was succeeded at
Waresley by his younger son, the Hon. Octavius Duncombe, M.P.,
on whose death in 1879 it passed to his son Col. Walter Duncombe.
(fn. 39) In 1917 it came into the possession of the latter's
sister, Miss E. C.Duncombe, and the Earl of Feversham is now the
owner. From: 'Parishes: Waresley', A History of the County of
Huntingdon: Volume 2 (1932), pp. 376-379. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42517.
Date accessed: 08 February 2008. |
Sir Stephen de Marisco: Sir Stephen held many lands in
the North of Cambridgeshire about 1200. His granddaughter married a de Coleville from
Weston Colville. His son was Jeffrey Marsh. Jeffrey was a common name in Marsh
families in Carlton, one mile from Weston Colville, from about 1500 onwards at least, but
rare in other parts of England. Jeffrey seems to have had no surviving sons, but may
have had brothers or surviving Marsh male lines from cousins.
Any Marsh Families anywhere in the World, who have links to Cambridgeshire, would be
very welcome to participate in this DNA project.
DORSET MARSH FAMILIES:
We are starting to get indications of what looks like it could be a very
large Marsh family connected to Dorset, and surrounding counties, and
Ireland. This is starting to get interesting, but we need more Dorest
Marshes to DNA test.
ESSEX MARSH FAMILIES:
Marsh of Ashdon Essex:
Family descended from John Marsh born about 1680. See the tree
at...
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfAshdonEssex.htm
Ashdon Essex is 6 miles from West Wratting in Cambridgeshire.
There is a suggestion of a connection between the West Wratting and Ashdon
Marsh families. If speculated information is correct, John Marsh
married 1624 at West Wratting to Mary Draper, had a son John who had a son
John Marsh born at Ashdon Essex in 1679. It is possible this was the
same person as the John Marsh founder of the Ashdon Marsh family, born
"about 1680".
There are a number of descendant lines from the John Marsh of Ashdon family,
including descendants in England, and including direct male lines in Western
Australia, and USA. Some persons of surname Slogrove are direct male
line descendants of the Ashdon Marshes.
DNA testing some of these known male lines could verify if they are
connected to the known Marsh family from West Wratting. If the Y-DNA
were to match, possible common ancestors might be John & Ellyn Marsh living
at West Wratting in 1584, and these may connect somehow to a John Marche and
John Marshe living at West Wratting between 1511 and 1533. At this
time Marche and Marshe were often used as variant spelling of Marsh, so it
is likely the Marche and Marshe were the same family.
Marsh of Braintree Essex:
The large Marsh family descended from John Marsh of Hartford CT, traces to Essex.
John of Hartford was born at Braintree Essex England.
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfHartfordCT.htm***
HAMPSHIRE MARSH FAMILIES:
A Marsh family from around Froxfield Green is of interest. I have
been approached by quite a number of Marsh families tracing to Hampshire,
and more participants would be welcomed.
KENT MARSH FAMILIES:
The early participants in the DNA project
includes a number of Marsh families who trace their origins to Kent, England. There
has been speculation for some time that various Kent Marsh descendants (In England/ USA/
Canada) might be related. DNA should answer some of these questions. Any other
Marshes of descent from Kent ancestors would be very welcome to join the project, and
learn if they relate to any of the existing Kent Marsh families being researched and DNA
tested.
There have been some interesting findings with DNA in relation to Kent
Marshes. We think we may have identified the Y-DNA of descendants of a
Marsh living in Kent in the 1300s, who was reported to be from an
Anglo-Saxon family. The DNA type from this family is of a type common
in Anglo-Saxon regions. This family looks to be very large, and widely
spread around the World.
Anybody interested in Kent Marsh families
might like to have a look at the very good web site at
http://www.christopher.ashman.btinternet.co.uk/marshkent/
LANCASHIRE MARSH FAMILIES:
There are huge numbers of Marsh families
tracing to Lancashire. We have tested a Marsh line from Wigan &
another from St Helens. There is evidence of a Staffordshire Marsh
family which may have originated in Lancashire in the 1400s, so DNA
connections in Staffordshire are also being watched for.
If anybody knows of any living lines of from Lancashire Marsh families,
please contact John Marsh ajmarsh@arrrg.org .
NORFOLK MARSH FAMILIES:
John Marsh:
b.1798 Salters Lodge, (Downham Market?) Norfolk
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeMarshOfSaltersLodgeNorfolk.htm
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www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/carapook/names/marsh.htm Marsh of
Downham Norfolk, to Victoria Australia. Alexander Marsh: b. Eng. to MA 1635
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ALT-GENEALOGY/2002-04/1018004229
see also
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeAlexanderOfBraintreeMA.htm
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A Cambridgeshire March family prominent in the 1500s,
appears to have spread into Norfolk.
Sir Stephen de Marsico who held considerable lands in northern
Cambridgeshire in around 1200, also held lands in Norfolk.
SOMERSET MARSH FAMILIES:
Historically, the prominent Norman
family of de Marisco was established
at Huntspill shortly after 1066. There are suggestions that some
Somerset Marsh families may trace to this family. We have found what
seems to be DNA evidence of a very large old Marsh family from the Somerset/
Dorset/ Wiltshire/ and surrounding counties. There is no hard evidence
to connect this DNA type to Huntspill, but it is something to watch for,
given that it is a large old family from the general area.
SUFFOLK MARSH FAMILIES:
Cambridgehsire and
Suffolk Marshes have historically traded back and forwards over the common
border. It is expected that relationships will be found between these
families, and also NorfolkMarsh families.
WILTSHIRE MARSH FAMILIES:
We have what we believe may be
DNA results from a Wiltshire Marsh family.
3) EARLY USA MARSH FAMILIES:
A number of early Marsh pioneers
to USA, many before 1,700AD, have left very large numbers of descendants.
It is hoped that representatives of these important early families will
participate in the project, to learn the DNA heritage of their ancestors,
and to learn which Marsh families around the
World are related to them. Where the origins of these early pioneers is uncertain,
it is hoped the DNA study may find localities in England where similar Marsh Y-DNA is
found, and possibly lead to paper trail clues to the origins of the families.
Following is
a list of early USA pioneering Marsh families which this project will focus on. The list is "under construction".
All Marshes before 1,700 are to be included, and any other Marsh families arriving in USA
after that which descendants would like included. If anybody is aware of any early
Marsh families which could be added to this list, please advise the Project Administrator
John Marsh, at ajmarsh@arrrg.org
.
In addition to the list, what is needed is participants who descend from these early
pioneers. If you are a Marsh male, and a direct male line descendant of one of the
following Marshes,
and
would like to participate in this project, please contact the Project Administrator. If you know of a
direct male line Marsh descendant, it would be of assistance to this project if you drew
to their attention the Marsh DNA project, and this web site. Alternatively, if you
forward their contact details to the Project Administrator, they will be contacted by
e-mail or post, and given information about the project. If you have any family tree
information on these families, the Project Administrator would welcome a copy, as it may
enable descendants to be traced to participate in this project.
EARLY MARSH PIONEERS IN USA
1600-1700:
John Marsh:
b. Eng, living Salem MA by 1633
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfSalemMA.htm
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John Marsh: in
Boston before 1669, d. Boston MA prob after 1695
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfBostonMA.htm
*** John Marsh:
settled in Virginia 1635 Joseph Marsh: settled in Virginia 1635 Alexander Marsh: b. Eng. to MA 1635
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ALT-GENEALOGY/2002-04/1018004229
see also
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeAlexanderOfBraintreeMA.htm
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George Marsh:
b. Eng. to MA 1635? d. Hingham MA 1647
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeGeorgeOfHingham.htm
*** John Marsh: b. Essex Eng.1618, to MA 1635? in Hartford Connecticut by 1642
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfHartfordCT.htm
*** Samuel Marsh: b.
Essex Eng. 1626, to New Haven CT 1645
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeSamuelOfNewHavenCT.htm ***
Hugh Marsha:
settled in Virginia 1650 Hugh March:
to MA 1638?, settled in Newbury, then Woodbridge NHJ, and then Old Elliot (Kittery)
ME.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/march/messages/399.html Robert Marsh:
b.1610 Eng, d. Pennsylvania, sons Robert & Hugh
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=tew4515&id=I05266
Arthur Marsh:
settled in Virginia 1663 {Q76}
Captain Paul Marsh: b. Eng. In Maryland by 1664
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreePaulOfMaryland.htm
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John Marsh: b. Eng. m.1664 Northhampton Massachusetts.
http://hometown.aol.com/jcpeleg/f0000029.html
Joseph Marsh:
b.1663 New Haven Connecticut.
http://members.cts.com/sd/h/hindskw/KennethHinds/11383.html
William Marsh: b. Lond?/Kent? in CT by 1682
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeWilliamOfPlainfieldCT.htm
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Gilbert Marsh:
in Maryland by 1694, d.1724
http://marsh-family-trees.freeservers.com/Tree1.html
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=:2160211&id=I110777060
(
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/M/MarshThomas-SophiaCorbin.shtml ?) (
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=larszman&id=I1252
?) This family is proving interesting, as it may be connected to the DNA type
found in a very early Marsh family from Kent.
Alexander Marsh: b.1690 Aughton Lancashire, to Virginia 1698
http://english-america.com/spls/698va005.html
1700-1800:
Peter Page Marsh: b.1764 England, d.1825 Bedford Co. VA
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=bgozbooks&id=I2036
Joshua Marsh: b.1674? Armagh, Ireland, in Baltimore MD
before 1696, Quaker Marsh family
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJoshuaOfArmagh.htm
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We have results for one speculated descendant, but the pedigree is
speculated. Robert Marsh:
b.1610 Eng? d.1689
Pensylvania
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=tew4515&id=I05266
Robert Marsh: b.1724, lived in North Carolina
http://www.kevinmarsh.us/
William Marsh: b.1673 Sadsbury Pennsylvania*#
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=janisde&id=I12105
Richard Marsh: at Salvage, Newfoundland 1681
http://home.earthlink.net/~lkstrong/ERSeary.htm
Thomas Marsh: In Virgina about 1650,
possibly from Kent England
http://groups.msn.com/TheAthyFamilyofGalway/themarshfamily.msnw
John MARSH
1 was born about 1588 in Of, Padbury, Buckinghamshire,
England. He died 1666 in Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts. John MARSH
married Mrs-John MARSH before 1614.
4) NEW ZEALAND MARSH FAMILIES:
In New Zealand, there are Marshes who descend from separate immigrant ancestors who
came from more than 17 English counties. It is hoped over time to learn if any of
these separate families are in fact related in the distant past. There are a number
of these families which originated in generally the same area, and relationships are
suspected. Participants are invited.
MARSH IMMIGRANTS TO NEW ZEALAND:
Charles Marsh: b.1864? Weston Colville, Camb. Eng.
Ancestor, John M. b.1787 West Wratting. Settled Glentunnel NZ 1882
Jack Marsh: b.1866? Weston Colville, Camb. Eng. Ancestor, John Marsh b.1787 West
Wratting. Settled Glentunnel NZ James Marsh: b.1868 Weston Colville, Camb. Eng. Ancestor, John Marsh b.1787 West
Wratting. Settled Glentunnel NZ 1913 Sydney Vincent Marsh: b.1885, Northwick, Chesire. Ancestor, Leonard Waller Marsh.
Settled Ashburton NZ. Arscott Marsh: b.1843, Sheepwash, Devon. Ancestor Henry Marsh. Settled
Tauranga, New Zealand. Arrived NZ 1881.
William Edward Marsh: b. Exeter, Devon. Ancestor Frank Marsh, Engineer.
Settled in Canterbury NZ. Jack Wheeler Marsh: b.1903, Surbiton Surrey. Ancestor John Marsh, b.1850 Poole
Dorset, d. Ramsgate Kent. Marton NZ. George Albert Marsh: b. Portland Dorset 1858. Ancestor Frederick James Marsh.
Settled Gisborne NZ. Alfred James Marsh: b. Dorset? Bootmaker. Settled New Plymouth NZ 1842.
Henry Edmund Marsh: b.1863, Stretham Eng. Ancestor William Marsh, b.,
Epping Essex. Settled Christchurch NZ. (Prominent descendant was
Dame Ngaio Marsh, the detective story writer)
George Marsh: b.1812 Hampshire? Eng. Settled Templeton, Canterbury NZ.
Arrived NZ 1851. Henry Charles James Marsh:
Ancestor, Henry Robert Marsh b.1900, of Portsmouth,
Hampshire. Reginald William Marsh: Ancestor William Marsh, Kent, Farmer. Family from Isle
of Sheppy/ Sandwich. To NZ 1967. William Marsh: b.1875, lived Sandwich, Kent. Settled Richmond, NZ 1908.
Robert Bushell Shaw Marsh: b.1840? Blackburn?/Chorley?/Horwick? Lancashire. To NZ
1881. Some family Toronto Canada. Joseph Zachariah Marsh: b. Lancashire, d. Ormondville NZ. William Joseph Marsh: b.1900. Ancestor John Aron Marsh, b.1825, d. Liverpool
1879, thatcher. Some family Australia. Douglas Marsh: Ancestor Robert Marsh, b.1876 Liverpool.
Richard Marsh: 1854 Derbyshire (or Gainsborough?). Ancestor Richard Broughton
Marsh, Gainsborough, maltster. To Chch.
Edward George Marsh: b.1893 London. Ancestor, Richard George Marsh, locksmith,
gunsmith. Settled Auckland NZ. Lewis Reginal Marsh: b. London. d. Gisborne. 2 daughters.
Frances Cyril Marsh: b. London. Brother of Lewis Reginald Marsh. To Auckland
NZ Sidney Warren Marsh: b.1874 London. Ancestor Frederick Marsh circa 1765.
Settled Canterbury NZ Isaac Marsh: b.1807 Lenton Nottingham. Ancestor, James Marsh. Settled
Canterbury NZ. William Marsh: b.1837, Cheswardine, Shropshire. Settled Paeroa NZ.
Richard John Marsh: b.1840, Ramsey. Ancestor Richard John Marsh, b.1758, Walstanton, Stafford. Settled Auckland NZ.
Spencer Allion Marsh: b.1904 Mellis? Ancestor Benjamin Baker Marsh, b. 1867
Rede Suffolk. Some family USA. John Marsh: b. 1828 Eng (London??) Settled Cromwell NZ.
(Prominent descendant includes a NZ Prime minister, and many members of
parliament) Robert Marsh: b. London. Descendants Masterton NZ.
Alexander William Marsh: b.1897 Dubbo NSW Australia. Settled Auckland NZ.
Lawrence Elly William Marsh: Ancestor Norman LeGrow Marsh b.1886 Australia, d.
Sidney. Settled Gisborne George Henry Marsh: born circa 1870, Australia. Descendants Auckland NZ.
Cyril Charles Marsh: b.1887 Launceston Tasmania. Settled Dunedin NZ.
Ancestor Cyril Charles Marsh. (Ancestor may have been from Norfolk England)
5)
AUSTRALIAN MARSH FAMILIES:
Several Australian Marshes have been DNA
tested. There is information which will be added here at some stage.
6) MARIS/ MARRIS/ MARSH CONNECTION?:
Some Maris/ Marris families derive from the Norman de Marisco family.
A number have direct male line pedigrees to Rololf de Marisco, who fought at
the battle of Hastings in 1066. As some Marsh families are believed to
descend from the same de Mariscos, it seems something which DNA might shed
light on. We are making progress on tracing these lines with DNA.
We have tested a number of lines tracing to variants of the surname Maris/
Marris.
See this web site with Marris/ Maris ancestry...
www.marisancestry.co.uk
.
http://www.maris.net/gen/
If any Maris/ Marris families are interested in having their DNA tested through the
Marsh DNA project, they are welcome.
7) DE MARISCO FAMILIES:
One of the early Norman families to arrive in
England in 1066, was a de Mareis/ de Marisco family. Because of the seRvice of this
family to William the Conqueror, the family gained influence and advantage for their
family. The family seems to have spread widely, and Geoffrey de Marisco from this
family became Justiciar of Ireland, establishing the family in Ireland as well as England.
In time the name in England came to be spelled Marsh, Marris, and many variants,
and in Ireland, Morris, with many variants. We are making progress
with identifying the Y-DNA of this family.
Particularly interesting is the history of this family prior to 1066.
A long term part of the marsh DNA Project, is to see what can be learned of
the origins of the family prior to 1066, when the surname was on occasions
spelled de Marcq, and de Marck. I am interested in the possibility
that this family may be connected to the de Bologne/ Bouillon family.
See preliminary draft of de Marisco tree at
http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeNormanDeMariscoFamilies.htm
7)
DE LA MARCH FAMILIES:
There appears to have been an interesting family of de la March, beleived to
descend from Bernard de nue Marche who was a trusted Baron of William I.
This looks to be an interesting family. Some descendants took the
surname Marsh. Is this connect to the de Marisco family?
9) WESTERN EUROPEAN MARSH FAMILIES:
Many families immigrating to America, and other English speaking countries, had surnames
similar to Marsh. These surnames were often Anglicised to Marsh in their new home
country. So today, some persons of surname "Marsh" trace back to ancestors
from these Western European countries, such as POLAND, RUSSIA, GERMANY, CZECHOSLOVAKIA,
HOLLAND, etc. Descendants of these Marsh families are interested to find what they
can about their origins through DNA. It is hoped that Marsh descendants who know
they have Western European origins will participate in the Marsh DNA Project, so that we
can help them learn about their heritage.
Some of the names which are known to have been Anglicized to Marsh are the following.
Please let me know if you can add any additional names to this list, and I would
also like to know if anyone can help with the genealogies of these families.
See http://maxpages.com/mpbs for Polish surnames
being researched.
MARUCHEWSKI: http://www.oriscus.com/dn/gen/_marsh.htm
Descendants of this surname using Marsh as surname. MARSCHAJW: Poland/ Russia
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.marsh/672
MOERSCH: German name Anglicised to Marsh..
http://www.brightok.net/~lguthrie/Page334-.htm
Also from Poland. MARSCH: Poland/ Germany MARES: From Czechoslovakia, pronounced Maresh, Americanized to Marsh. VAN MARSH:
http://www.deeproots.org/about/general/cnn_womenineducation.pdf
Alphonso van Marsh VAN MARSBERGEN: (spelling is from my memory, may not be correct) Dutch family took
the name of Marsh. MAISCH: Germany, not sure if this name is used as a Marsh variant, but DNA
results are available for someone of this surname. MARTZ/ MERTZ/ MERTS: Family adopted the name March in USA.
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