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HISTORY OF CAMBRIDGESHIRE:

http://www.cambridgeshirehistory.com/cambridgeshire/timeline/timeline8.html
 
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TREES- MARSHES OF WEST WRATTING:
(This section is definitely "work in progress", as much more information is available to include here, and this is being added as time allows.)

See also the following:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=fsluman&id=I1374
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~janp/marsh.htm 
http://www.historyscape.org.uk/ancestors/516.html
http://www.flackgenealogy.co.uk/flacktng/search.php?mylastname=MARSH&lnqualify=equals&mybool=AND&tree=
http://www.anzwers.org/free/nickson/Trees/Dickie/d8.html (James William Marsh, descends from John b.1787)
http://www.historyscape.org.uk/ancestors/names14.html#marsh
http://www.destinations-uk.com/articles.php?link=articles&country=england&id=22   (Bronze Age Cambridgeshire)
http://www.e-familytree.net/F62/F62282.htm
www.cryer.freeserve.co.uk/wratting.htm   (West Wratting in World War 2)
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=rsalzman&id=I147589&ti=5519
http://www.e-familytree.net/f11759.htm#i144346
http://www.historyscape.org.uk/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I516&tree=ruth (James Marsh b.1835 & other family)
http://genforum.genealogy.com/marsh/messages/4585.html (Thomas marsh & Elizabeth Blanks)
http://www.history.kessler-web.co.uk/KingListsBritain/EnglandEastAnglia.htm (Engles of East Anglia)
http://resources.rootsweb.com/~guestbook/cgi-bin/public_guestbook.cgi?gb=780&action=view (West Wratting Marshes)
http://www.robalsmith.id.au/shelford/people/people-p/p224.htm
http://www.historyscape.org.uk/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I1961&tree=ruth
http://www.e-familytree.net/f11717.htm#f62292
http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcam/indexpg.htm  (CAMBRIDGESHIRE GENEALOGY)***
http://www.historyscape.org.uk/genealogy/search.php?mylastname=MARSH&lnqualify=equals&mybool=AND&tree=ruth 
http://www.e-familytree.net/F62/F62208.htm
http://www.dullingham.com/  (Dullingham Village web site)
http://www.ancientancestors.net/F62/F62332.htm (Relatively extensive tree)
http://www.littlethurlow.org/  (West Wratting Marshes had some connection to Gt Thurlow and Little Thurlow)
http://www.e-familytree.net/f11717.htm#f64298
http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/foxe/apparatus/person_glossaryW.html   Famous Matyr George Marsh, died about 1570, lived in Cambridgeshire, but was born in Lancashire.  (Currently a "possible" descendant of George is being DNA tested, so we may learn if there is any connection to Cambridgeshire Marshes.)
http://www.e-familytree.net/F62/F62258.htm
http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=DSwAAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA2-PR186&lpg=RA2-PR186&dq=%22Simon+de+Marisco%22&source=web&ots=SvhV3s-nxj&sig=JaP3YUeuRBXHeaxnG-bJTSiRkX4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#PRA2-PR82,M1  (This Book links the Norman de Marisco family to Cambridgeshire)

RELATIONSHIPS OF SOUTH CAMBRIDGESHIRE MARSHES:

Although this web page was titled "Marshes of West Wratting Cambridgeshire", it has pretty much outgrown it's title.  It started when 2 separate Marsh families tracing to West Wratting were known.  Since then, DNA testing has established that these two are part of the same Marsh family.  And following on from that, Marsh families tracing to Great Bradley in Suffolk, Burwell in Cambridgeshire, and Cambridge City have been DNA tested, and found to be descended from the same Marsh family.  (Y-DNA [Y chromosome DNA] is passed on mostly unchanged from fathers to sons, so by testing Y-DNA of male Marshes, it can be established that those having very similar or identical Y-DNA are from the same Marsh family.) 

The two original Marsh families from West Wratting are known at different times to have been represented by family  members in adjoining villages of Carlton, Brinkley, Balsham, Bottisham, Burrough Green, Burwell, Dullingham, Stetchwoth, Linton, and Weston Colville, with some possible links to Marsh families in West Suffolk, eg Gt Thurlow, and Gt Bradley.   Some Marsh families in the south of Cambridgeshire, eg at Horse Heath, Castle Camps, Shudy Camps etc, seem to have relationships to Marshes in Northern Essex and South West Suffolk, so it is possible that these could also be connected to West Wratting Marshes.    There have been a number of links between Saffron Waldon Marshes and West Wratting, Weston Colville and other South Cambridgeshire villages. Descendants of West Wratting Marshes are now widely spread around the World, being well represented in England (Cambridgeshire, Suffolk, etc) Australia (Victoria, South Australia, NSW, Queensland) New Zealand, Denmark,  South Africa, USA (Michigan) and the Pacific Islands.

In the Marsh Families DNA Project, we have established that the following families have very similar Y-DNA, so come from the same Marsh family.

1) Thomas Marsh: who married Mildred Richardson 1698 at West Wratting: see TREE 5 below.

2) John Marsh: likely born West Wratting 1787, married Anne Clarke at Weston Colville 1806, see TREE 6

3) John Marsh: married 1742 Mary Crown (of Hundon Suffolk), descendants at Great Bradley Suffolk.

4) James Marsh:  residence Holy Trinity Cambridge m. Ann Radford. Children Ann, William b.1811, Mary Anne,  Harriett, Anderson 1822-71, Emma, John 1828, Eliza, Anna Maria, Frances.

5) James Marsh: born Burwell, son Frederick b. 1871 Burwell, many descendants Michigan USA. 
See http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreesBurwellMarshes.htm

6) Possible DNA Link: We have identified a person of a different surname from Marsh, which could potentially be derived from an early variant of the surname Marsh, and this person is a relatively close Y-DNA match.  If related the relationship could be as far back as 900 years.  More research needed into this match.

Currently several other Marsh lines from the Cambridgeshire & Suffolk area are being DNA tested, so there may shortly be other members to add to this Marsh DNA Clan.  In time it is hoped that we may be able to find paper trail links between some of these families, or at least identify a possible common ancestor.  In theory, DNA can be used to draw a detailed network diagram of relationships, so as more DNA data is obtained on more descendants, we should eventually end up with a good idea about how the branches are related. We would welcome further Cambridgeshire/ Suffolk/ Norfolk/ Essex Marsh families to participate in the Marsh Families DNA Project.  Work in Progress!

For the moment I shall leave the title of this page "Marshes from West Wratting", but in time I will have to find a more appropriate name for this family which clearly covers more extensive geographic areas.

TREES- MARSH FAMILIES OF WEST WRATTING:

There are a number of Marshes from West Wratting that I have not been able to link together into trees of any size, so those for the present have been omitted.   Following are larger fragments of trees which may have some significance to present day Marshes, and the DNA study.

TREE 1: Marshes at "Wratting" from the 1100s:  In the mid 1,100s, there was a Simon de Merc/ de Merk, who seems to have been a significant land holder at "Wratting".  Wratting may be a reference to "Great Wratting", which is a Suffolk village about 6 miles from "West Wratting" in Cambridgeshire.  West Wratting was settled originally by people from the village of Great Wratting, so there would have been early connections between the two villages.  The name de Merc/ de Merk and many variants over time became Marsh. 

Getting back to the 1,100s, records are few and far between, so it is hard to say where Simon came from.  However, the tree below is for a Norman de Merc family which came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066, and fought at the Battle of Hastings.  For his services, Adelolf de Merc is said to have been given lands in Cambridgeshire, along with others in Essex, and other areas.   It is a very speculative leap, but this Norman de Merc/ Marsh family had a Gaufrid/ Geoffrey de Merc, who had a son Simon de Merc who would have been living about the right time to have been the Simon de Merc with lands at Wratting.  Please don't accept this as fact, but just an hypothesis to work on.  If Marshes were at West Wratting in the 1400s when parish records start being helpful, they had to come from somewhere, and the Simon de Merc at Wratting is the only early Marsh in the area I am aware of.  Other than that a Sir Stephen de Merc/ de Marisco (born about 1170??) who had estates in the Fens, but whose son "Geoffrey Marsh" had a daughter and heiress who married the de Coleville who was Lord of the Manor at Weston Colville in the 1200s.  If the Simon de Merc at Wratting is from the family below, he would have had a brother Stephen, so the Sir Stephen de Marisco could perhaps be connected somehow to the Simon de Merc at Wratting. 

(A line thought to descend from the de Mercs/ de Mariscos has different Y-DNA from West Wratting Marshes.  However, it appears that a major branch of the de Merc/ de Marisco family may descend from a de Mountmorency male who married a de Marisco heiress, and adopted the de Marisco surname.  So there could be two separate Y-DNA lines descended from the de Mariscos, using the surname de Marisco and variants.  Further research is being done.  Otbert is thought to have been from a cadet branch of the Vitcom de Marcq Family of the town of Marck in Normandy.)

The following tree is from Rootsweb on the internet...
1 Otbert de MERC b: ABT 1030 d: AFT 1086
    2 Adelolf de MERC b: ABT 1055 d: AFT 1086
        3 Eustache de MERC b: ABT 1080 d: AFT 1119
            4 Henry de MERC b: ABT 1103 d: ABT 1167
                5 Eustace de MERC , Lord of Stibbington b: ABT 1125 d: AFT 1166
                  + Alice de St. QUINTIN b: ABT 1118 d: AFT 1186
                    6 John de Merc b: ABT 1145 d: BEF 1217
                    6 Robert de Merc b: ABT 1150 d: UNKNOWN
                    6 William de MERC b: ABT 1155 d: BEF 1219
                        7 Walter de MERC b: ABT 1185 d: AFT 1235
                            8 William de MERC b: ABT 1215 d: UNKNOWN
                                9 John de Merc b: ABT 1245 d: AFT 1297
                                9 Cecily de MERC b: ABT 1250 d: 1304
                                  + Humphrey de HASTINGS b: ABT 1245 d: UNKNOWN
                                    10 Philip de HASTINGS b: ABT 1270 d: UNKNOWN
            4 Ralph de Merc b: ABT 1105 d: UNKNOWN
        3 Ingleram de Merc b: ABT 1083 d: AFT 1148
        3 Gaufrid de Merc b: ABT 1085 d: AFT 1129  (Speculative note by AJ Marsh- it appears that Gaufrid/ Geoffrey had sons William, Simon, Hugh, Stephen, Paganus.  Could the Simon have been the Simon Merc/ Merk who held lands near Wratting/ West Wratting in the late 1100s???)  (Note: Adelolf de Merc was said to have been born at Merck-St. Lievin, Fauquenbergues, in Artois France.  I note that this area of France was known as having being a Saxon area in ancient times.)

TREE 2: Marshes at West Wratting from the 1400s:  Between 1515 and 1533 there was a John Marche at West Wratting, a John Marshe at West Wratting, and a William Marshe at Balsham, all of whom left Wills.  It is possible that Marche was a variant spelling of Marshe.  One presumes it is likely there were Marshes in West Wratting as far back as the 1400s.  Because they left wills, it is possible that they were land owners.

TREE 3: Henrye Marshe of West Wratting in the 1500s:   See below:   There were several Henry Marshes at Balsham about this time. Balsham is just over a mile from West Wratting.  (The Henry Marsh born at Balsham in 1590, was the son of .... Rule, who was descended from the same Rule line as participant A1 in the Marsh DNA Project.)

1) Henrye Marshe: lived at West Wratting, m.Alyce.
   2) Ellenor Marsh: b.1583 WW
   2) Giles Marsh: b.1585 WW
   2) Peter Marsh: b.1587 WW
   2) Joan Marsh: b.1590 WW

TREE 4: John Marshe of West Wratting in the 1500s:   John below was of an age where he might have been a brother of the above Henrye.   It is possible that John Marshe was descended from either the John Marche or the John Marshe living in West Wratting 100 years earlier.  For a time, Henrye and John seem to have been the only Marsh families in West wratting, but there were  4 in Carlton nearby.  (The Thomas, Jeffrey, Christopher, and Bartholomew Marsh in Carlton in my view are likely to be related to each other, based on the prevalence of Jeffrey, Bartholomew, and Christopher as Christian names in all of their families.   Christopher is also a name common in the March family of Isle of Ely about that time.)  I suspect a Gilbert Marsh born at West Wratting in 1706 may have been a gt gt gt grandson of John below, but I can't yet establish any definite link between John's descendants, and the large family of Thomas Marsh & Mildred Richardson which multiplied in West Wratting from about 1700 onwards, although it is possible, even probable in my view.

1) John Marshe: burried 1611 West Wratting.  m. Ellyn.
   2) John Marsh: b.1584 WW
       (There was a John Marsh Married a Mary Draper at
       West Wratting in 1624, and had a son John born 1625.
       John the father died in 1626.  John the son by some accounts
       was the ancestors of the Marsh family of Ashdon Essex.   See
       http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeJohnOfAshdonEssex.htm)
       (DNA testing has shown that the John Marsh who married Mary Draper
       is unlikely to be related to the West Wratting Marshes in the past 1,000 years,
       but the possibility of relationship can't be totally excluded.)
   2) Frances Marsh: b.1588 d.1588 WW
   2) Margaret Marsh: b.1592 d.1598 WW
   2) Thomas Marsh: b.1596 WW m. 1620 Mary Missing
      3) Thomas Marsh: b. 1620 WW
      3) William Marsh: b.1623 WW
      3) Alexander Marsh:  b.1626 d.1644 WW
      3) John Marsh: b.1629 WW (perhaps married twice? Joan? Elizabeth?)
        ?4) Mary Marsh: b.1659 WW
      ??4) John Marsh: b.1669 WW (m. Ann?)
           ?5) Robert Marsh: b.1692 d.1693? WW
           ?5) John Marsh: b.1696
      ??4) Robbert Marsh: b.1671 d.1683? WW
      3) Gilbert Marsh: b.1632 d.1632 WW
      3) Matthias Marsh: b.1632 d.1632 WW
      3) Edward Marsh: b1634 WW
      3) Henry Marsh: b.1637
      3) Robert Marsh: b.1640
          (There was a Robert Marsh married in Carlton 1668)

TREE 5: Thomas Marsh of West Wratting b. circa 1670:   The Thomas Marsh below is shown on many family trees on the internet, as being the son of Thomas Marsh and Annis Haylock.  It appears that Thomas & Annis had children An, John, Aves, and Thomas b.1671.  It seems to me, that this family may have had some association with Gt Thurlow, Suffolk, and I believe each of these children was baptised in both West Wratting, and Gt Thurlow.  It may be possible that there were two separate Thomas Marshes both married to Annis Haylocks, who had 4 children of the same name, in the same order, at the same times, in parishes a couple of miles appart.   My inclination is to think there was only one family.  If this was the case, it seems that the Thomas born in 1671, died in Gt Thurlow, in 1680.  This would mean that it is unlikely that Thomas & Annis Marsh were the parents of the Thomas Marsh below, who married Mildred Richardson. 

I don't see a Thomas in the baptism records of any adjoining villages who looks likely to be the Thomas Marsh who married Mildred Richardson.   My guess is that several sons of Thomas Marsh & Mary Missing, married and had children, which don't seem to appear in the parish registers for West Wratting.  (eg, a Gilbert Marsh b.1712, is likely to be a gt grandson of Thomas & Mary)  My guess is that Thomas who married Mildred Richardson is likely to have descended from one of Thomas & Mary's 9 sons, and that there may be a few entries or pages missing from the parish registers.

I am told that the Marsh family of West Wratting included blacksmiths through a number of generations.  Some of the family were publicans.  A number were farm labourers.  

1) Thomas Marsh: m.1698 WW to Mildred Richardson
   2) Mary Marsh: b.1698 WW, m. WC to John Hyner
   2) John Marsh: b.1699 WW d.1699 WW
   2) Thomas Marsh: b.1699 WW d.1699 WW
   2) Thomas Marsh: b.1700 m.1 Elizabeth Manfield m.2 Mary Baker
      3) John Marsh: b.1727 WW d.1789 (from his will, seems to have had no children)
      3) Thomas Marsh: b.1731 WW m.1 Susan Manfield m.2 Elizabeth Loyde
         4) John Marsh: b.1756 WW d.1808 m.1785 Anne Cockerton
           5) Catherine Cockerton Marsh: b.1786 WW m. 1805 Edward Curtis
         4) Thomas Marsh: b.1758 d.1827 m.1779 Hannah Precious
           5) John Marsh: b.1780 Westly Waterless
               The 1851 Census has a John Marsh, widower,
               aged 70, born Westly,  as an inmate of Chesterton Workhouse.  If this
               is this John Marsh, it is clearly unlikely the John Marsh born in
               1787 is a younger brother.  Some contend that this John Marsh is the
               same John Marsh born in 1787 at West Wratting, but it seems unlikely
           5) Thomas Marsh: b.1783 Westly Waterless
           5) Susannah Marsh: b.1785 Westly Waterless
         4) Susannah Marsh: b.1760 WW (?m.1781 Carlton to Thomas Jaggard?)
         4) Hannah Marsh: b.1763 WW m.1782 Edmund Bitten-Boston
         4) Anne Marsh: b.1765 WW
      3) Anne Marsh: b.1749 d.1750, dau of Mary
   2) John Marsh: b.1703 WW m.1730 WW? Ann Starling??
   2) Robert Marsh: b.1707 WW m.1731 Dullingham to Martha Precious
       (One alternative source suggests Robert might have been b.1711, the son of
       Robert Marsh & Margaret Rooks, married at Weston Colville 1703,
       and who lived at Stetchworth, where Robert the elder was parish
       clerk, and it is speculated Robert's gt grandfather was Thomas Marsh
       having children at Carlton in the late 1500s.)
       (In addition to the following children, there was an Elizabeth Marsh born at West
       Wratting in about the 1750s, who married Thomas Haylock of Gt Thurlow, and whose
      grandson lived with Marsh descendants of Robert & Martha, at Dullingham in 1881.
       Elizabeth may have been a daughter, or grandaughter of Robert & Martha.)
      3) Martha Marsh: b.1731 Burrough Green
      3) Robert Marsh: b.1732 BuGr
      3) John Marsh: b.1733 BuGr (bapt 2 months after Robert??)
          There was a John Marsh married Mary Webb 1764 at Brinkley.  Not sure if it was
          this John.  The following children are speculated, but not verified.
        ?4) John Marsh: b.1770 Burrough Breen
        ?4) Ann Marsh: b.1772 Burrough Green
        ?4) William Marsh: b.1774 Burrough Green
        ?4) Lucy Marsh: b.1778 Burrough Green
      3) Precious Marsh: b.1735 BuGr
      3) William Marsh: b.1741 BuGr d.1801, m.1765 Frances Andrews
         4) William Marsh: b.1766 WW m.1 1795 Rebecca Dean m.2 1800 Elizabeth Mabbutt
           5) John Marsh: b.1801 Balsham (?m.1828 Mary Pearlman?)
            ?6) Susanna Mash: b.1829 Balsham
            ?6) William Mash: b.1831 Balsham
            ?6) James Mash: b.1835 Balsham
         4) Elizabeth Andrews Marsh: b.1768 WW
          ?5) Ann Marsh: b.1794 WW
         4) Martha Marsh: b.1770 WW m.1792 WW Benjamin Haywood/ Howard
         4) Precious Marsh: b.1771 WW d.1844 m.Frances Ward at Weston Colville
            5) Charlotte Marsh: b.1801 WC m.1821 WW Thomas Beavis
            5) William Ward Marsh: b.1804 WW d.1896, farmer, m.1827 Sarah Bentley Moss
               6) John Moss Marsh: b.1829 WW d.1815 Qld Aust. m.1 Rachel Potter
                   m.2 Ellen Saunders  http://members.iinet.net.au/~alxandra/GenghisKhan.html
                  7) Sarah Elizabeth Marsh: b.Tarameo Station Qld d.1925 m. Richard Roots
                  7) Alfred Marsh: b.1856 Tarameo Qld d.1936 m. Margaret Coulsen
                     8) William John Marsh: b.1901 Qld d.1967
                     8) Ethel May Marsh: b.1902 Qld
                     8) Alfred Victor Marsh: b.1903 Qld d.1954 Yandina Qld
                     8) Rachel Amy Marsh: b.1905 Qld
                  7) William Marsh: b.1858 Tarameo Qld d.1934 m. Martha Neary
                     8) Rachel Emma Vera Marsh: b.1897 Ipswich Qld d.1969
                     8) Robert George Marsh: b.1900 Ipswich Qld d.1960
                     8) Daisy Irene Marsh: b.1902 Ipswich Qld d.1910 Qld
                  7) Ann Marsh: b.1860 Tarameo Qld d.1933 m. Henry Bennett
                  7) Maria Marsh: b.1861 Ipswich Qld d.1925 m.1882 James Law
                  7) Joseph Marsh: b.1863 Ipswich Qld d.1899 m.1 Jane Harvey
                      m.2 1897 Jane Tucker
                     8) Agnes Elizabeth Marsh: b.1891 Ipswich Qld d.1991
                     8) Jane Marsh: b.1893 Ipswich Qld d.1972
                     8) Ruth Marsh: b.1897 Ipswich Qld
                     8) David John Marsh: b.1900 Ipswich Qld d.1994
                     8) William Marsh: b.1906 Qld
                     8) Alfred Marsh: b.1909 Ipswich Qld d.1994
                  7) Charles Marsh: b.1864 Ipswich Qld d.1920 m. Harriet Grummett 1900
                     8) Ernest Robert Marsh: b.1901 Qld d.1968 Ipswich Qld
                     8) Ivor Oswald Marsh: b.Qld 1908 d.1995 Brisbane Qld
                  7) Christina Marsh: b.1866 Ipswich Qld d.1867
                  7) Samuel Marsh: b.1870 Ipswich Qld d.1960 m. Fanny Ellen Parker
                     8) Thelma Olive Gladys Marsh: b.1905
                  7) James Marsh: b.1872 Ipswich Qld d.1966
                  7) Ellen Marsh: b.1875 Ipswich Qld d.1954  m. William Wilson Cumming
                  7) Emma Sophia Marsh: b.1879 Ipswich Qld d.1879
               6) William Marsh: b.1831 WW d.1924 Ipswich Qld. Aust. Carpenter
                   m. Lucy Wallis
               6) Richard Marsh: b.1833 WW d.1911 Laidley m.Mary Ann Willis
                   m.2 Matilda Rawlinson
                  7) Richard Ward Marsh: b.1871 Qld d.1942 Laidley Qld Australia
               6) Isaac Marsh: b.1836 WW m. Elizabeth Drane 1884 WW
               6) Jesse Marsh: b.1838 WW
               6) Frances-Moss "Fanny" Marsh: b.1839 WW m. Thomas Barker
               6) Charles Marsh: b.1841 WW
               6) James "Bentley" Marsh: b.1844 WW m. Sarah Salmon WW
                  7) John Marsh: b.1776 WW m.? Elizabeth?
                      http://www.flackgenealogy.co.uk/flacktng/descend.php?personID=I00815&tree=tree01
                   ?8) John Sheldrake Marsh: b.1816 WW Publican WW m. Hannah?
                       9) Henry Marsh: b.1837 WW
                       9) John Shadrach Marsh: b.1839 WW Blacksmith
                           m.1861 Eliza Elizabeth Bradford
                         10) Mary Marsh: b.1861 WW
                         10) Elizabeth Mary Marsh: b.1862 WW
                         10) Eliza Hannah Marsh: b.1864 WW
                         10) John Willam Marsh: b.1866 WW
                         10) Hannah Marsh: b.1867 WW
                         10) Edith Marsh: b.1870 WW
                         10) Florence Marsh: b.1872 WW
                         10) William Marsh: b.1873 WW
                         10) Robert Marsh: b.1875 WW
                         10) Shadrach Marsh: b.1877 WW
                         10) Bertha Marsh: b.1881 WW d. young in Cambridge?
                         10) Frederick Henry Marsh: b.1884 WW
                         10) Marsh:
                         10) Marsh:
                       9) Edward Marsh: b.1842 WW
                       9) Elizabeth Marsh: b.1845 WW
                       9) Agnes Marsh: b.1849 WW
                   ?8) Simeon Marsh: b.1819 Linton? m.1 Ellen?
                         (see below, m.2? Mary Ann Sauderson?)
                         http://www.flackgenealogy.co.uk/flacktng/getperson.php?personID=I00705&tree=tree01&PHPSESSID=24126e8cb4a46bae7b54691a33ed6723
                     ?9) Elizabeth Jane Marsh: b.1839?
                     ?9) Abigail Marsh: b.1842?
                     ?9) Elijaj Marsh: b.1845?
                       9) James-Elijah Marsh: b.1861 WW m.1 Selina-Henrietta Brown
                           m.2 Elizabeth Smith
                         10) James Marsh: b.1884 WW
                       9) Ephraim Marsh: b.1866? WW d.1866
                       9) Simeon Marsh: b.1866? WW
                       9) Robert-Ephraim Marsh: b.1867 WW
                       9) George Marsh: b.1868 WW
                       9) Eve-Elizabeth Marsh: b.1871 WW
                       9) Arthur Edward Marsh: b.1875 WW
                   ?8) Harriett Marsh: b.1825 Linton
               6) Alfred Marsh: b.1847 WW
               6) Ann Marsh: b.1849 WW
            5) Lucy Marsh: b.1806 WW m.1828 Thomas Carlton
            5) Mary-Ann Marsh: b.1809 WW
            5) Ann Marsh: b.1811 twin WW d.1812
            5) Elizabeth Marsh: b.1811 twin m.1832 Joseph Freestone
            5) Rebecca Marsh: b.1814 WW m.1835 James Saunderson
               6) Mary Ann Saunderson: b.1841 WW m.1859 WW Simeon Marsh b.1819 above
            5) Susanna Marsh: b.1818 WW m.1841 WW William Curtis
            5) John Precious Marsh: b.1820 WW m. Mary Potter
               6) Mary Ann Marsh: b.1844 WW m. James Beaumont
               6) Hannah Marsh: b.1846 WW d.1923 m. Charles Taylor
               6) Frances Marsh: b.1848 WW
               6) Arthur Marsh: (Primative Methodist) b.1852 WW m. Caroline J Bidwell
                  7) Son:
                  7) Son:
                  7) Son:
                  7) Son:
               6) Lazarus Marsh:
               6) Morris G Marsh: b.1861
               6) Lucy Marsh:
               6) Florence E Marsh: m. Ernest Hall  (Note, some trees on the internet  show
                   Frances as marrying Ernest Hall, but it was Florence, from reliable sources.)
         4) Thomas Marsh: b.1773 WW (? m.1799 WW Elizabeth Green? to Burwell 1801?)
         4) John Marsh: b.1776 WW m.1797 Elizabeth Symonds
            5) (descendants were publicans of WC)
         4) Anne Marsh: b.1778 WW d.1844 m.1797 William Woollard
         4) James Marsh: b.1780 WW d.1861 WW, bur. Brinkley m. Hannah Radford
            5) William Marsh: b.1805 WW
            5) Ann Marsh: b.1807 WW
            5) Mary Marsh: b.1809 Brinkley m. 1832 John Limmer
            5) Charles Marsh: b.1811 Brinkley
            5) Edward Marsh: b.1813 Brinkley
            5) Rebecca Marsh: b.1815 Brinkley m.1834 Thomas Langley
            5) Sarah Marsh: b.1815 Brinkley
               6) James Marsh: b.1836 Brinkley
            5) Eliza Marsh: b.1817 Brinkley m.1837 William Grainger
            5) Frances Marsh: b.1817 Brinkley
               6) Charlotte Marsh: b.1840 Brinkley
            5) George Marsh: b.1823 Brinkley
            5) Emily Marsh: b. 1827 Brinkley
               6) Emily Marsh: b.1847 Brinkley
         4) Robert Marsh: b.1783 WW m.1804 WW Bennett Gilbey
            5) Charles Marsh: b. 1817
               6) SON:
                  7) SON:
                     8) SON:
         4) Frances Marsh: b.1876 WW
         4) Edward Marsh: b.1788 WW (may have been a non conformist minister)
         4) George Marsh: b.1792 WW
  2) James Marsh: b.1710 WW


TREE 6: John Marsh b. 1787 at West Wratting (descendants at Weston Colville):    below is widely shown on trees on the internet as the son of Thomas Marsh b.1758 & Hannah Precious, who appear on the Tree 5 above at generation 4.   This appears to be incorrect, as it seems that both appear separately on at least one census.  We know John was possibly born about Feb/ March 1787 at West Wratting, but no baptismal records can be found.  On the earliest census returns he is shown as born at West Wratting.  On some later census returns he is shown born at Weston Colville where he lived at least since 1806 until he died.  We know that because John inherited a long case clock which is said to have been passed from father to eldest son since 1649, the date in the clock, that John is likely to have been an eldest surviving son of an eldest surviving son etc. going back to about 1649.  Thomas Marsh born 1758 would fit this scenario.   Especially in view of a will left by  his uncle John Marsh b.1727 at WW (eldest son who had no children), which leaves his belongings to his brother Thomas's son Thomas's son John.  The John Marsh who left this will died in 1889, 2 years after John was born in 1787.  Possible parents of John Marsh include the following, plus a few lesser possibilities, each possibility having something to support it when looking into the details....

a) Thomas Marsh b.1758 WW (tree above, generation 4) and Hannah Precious:  There is a lot to support this, however, Thomas & Hannah had sons John b.1780 at Westley Waterless, and Thomas b. 1783 at Westley Waterless.   There is no record of them dying young, or for that matter marrying, so this is a loose end which creates a few questions as to whether they had another son John born in 1787.  Thomas and Hannah would fit in with the detailed evidence very well indeed, if it was not necessary to explain what happened to the sons John b.1780 and Thomas b.1783.  Thomas descends from Thomas Marsh b. circa 1671 and Mildred Richardson.  Descendants of 2 sons of John Marsh b.1787 have a close Y-DNA match to Thomas Marsh b. circa 1671.  They seem without doubt from the same Marsh family, but as yet the exact relationship is not confirmed.

b) William Marsh b. WW 1766 (tree above, generation 4):  William married in 1795 (age 29), and in 1800 (age 34).  William was an eldest son, so the clock could have passed via him.  It would not be impossible for him to have married or had a child in 1787, when he would have been almost 21.  If he was not married at the time, the child may have been baptized with the mother's maiden name.  William seems to have had a son John b.1801.  If William had a child from an early marriage, it was possibly raised by grandparents if the wife died.  It might not preclude the son John born 1801 having the name John, if he was not raised in the same family.  There is only slim evidence to suggest William was the father of John, but it is perhaps a possibility.  This William is also related based on DNA to descendants of John Marsh b.1787.  It may be possible by more DNA testing of related families to determine if William was the father of John b. 1787.

c) Francis Marsh b. Babraham, and Susannah Mansfield:  This couple had an eldest (only?) son John baptised 1787 in Babraham.  Francis seems to have moved about a bit, and lived at Gt Wilbraham, where Susannah came from.  This is the only John Marsh who seems to have been baptised in Cambridgeshire in 1787, on records seen so far.  There is some evidence to support this possibility, but it seems a lower chance than other options.  It would be tempting to suspect that this Marsh line was from the very old Pampisford Marsh family, which in turn may have traced to the Adelolf de Marisco who fought at the battle of Hastings.  A person with a pedigree to Adelolf de Marisco does not match the Y-DNA of descendants of John Marsh b.1787, so a connection to the Pampisford Marshes seems a little less likely.  A relationship is not impossible, as sometimes the surname passed to a daughters son, who took the name Marsh, if there were no male heirs of the name Marsh.

d) Carlton Marsh family: There was a Marsh family at Carlton at this time, which there are a few hints of links to.  This is perhaps a remote chance for the parents of John b.1787, but can't be eliminated.  Some of this family seemed to have been baptized at age 10, and possibly 20, so it is a little unclear what children were born to this family, and when. 

e) Marsh families at West Wratting seem to have had connections to Cowlinge and Gt Thurlow, Suffolk, and Ashdon Essex, and possibly Saffron Walden in Hertfordshire.  There are lots of other "outside chances" for Marshes from those areas to be involved in the family story.

1) John Marsh: b.1787 West Wratting d.1874 Weston Colville m. Ann Clarke 1806 WC
   2) William Marsh: b.1806 Weston Colville d.1842 m. Ann Wells b. Burwell (Ann Wells
       was herself the grandaughter of an Ann Marsh who married Oliver Carter at Burwell)
      3) George Marsh: b.1829 WC m. Zillah Halls (Zillah was a foster ch. of
           unrelated? Charles Marsh)
           http://www.carlton-cambridgeshire.org.uk/History/Registers/C1871_80.html
         4) William Marsh: b.?  d.1940? Six Mile Bottom
            5) Agnes Marsh: lived at Lark Hall, unmarried.
            5) Ethel Marsh: m. Dick Fordham
                 http://www.historyscape.org.uk/ancestors/3515.html
            5) Meme Marsh: lived at Lark Hall, unmarried.
         4) Walter Marsh: b.1872 Balsham d. Gt Shelford 1961
             http://www.historyscape.org.uk/ancestors/1942.html
            5) Emily Marsh: m. Royce Barnes
            5) Nellie Marsh m. George Cornwall
            5) Grace Marsh: m. Stanley Jepson
            5) William G. Marsh: m. Lilly Pettet
               6) son:
                  7) son:
               6) son:
            5) May Marsh: m. Harry Theobold
            5) James Marsh: m. descendants
               6) son: (Australia)
               6) dau:
            5) Arthur Marsh: m. descendants
               6) dau:
            5) Alfred:
               6) dau:
    ?3) son?: a family tradition says a son may have gone to Tasmania. (Just a thought, but
          perhaps Ann Wells had this child before marrying William? Ann was 10 yrs older than William.
          Ann may have had a daughter Elizabeth? Marsh born several years after William died)
      3) Eliza Marsh: b.1833 WC (m. "Alec" Haylock?)
      3) James Marsh: b.1835 WC d. WC m.1 Mary Ann Williams m.2 (Matilda?)
          m.3 late in life Zillah Halls (widow of George Marsh.)
          http://www.historyscape.org.uk/ancestors/516.html
         4) William Marsh: b.1862 d. in ChCh New Zealand, m. in Australia,
             (Frazer?) no children, (burried in Addington Cemetary, Christchurch NZ,
             no headstone, grave is second row from street, at right hand end)
         4) Charles Marsh: b.1864? d.Glentunnel New Zealand m. Ann Leeming
            5) Mary Alma Marsh: m. Doug Carter
            5) Gordon D. Marsh: m.Margaret McGregor
               6) dau:
               6) dau:
            5) James (Beau) Marsh: m.1 Mina Dickie m.2 Mary Dickie, 3 sons 4 daus
               6) dau:
               6) son:
               6) son:
               6) dau:
               6) son:
               6) dau:
               6) dau:
            5) Myrtle F (Coot) Marsh: 1 son
               6) son:
                  7) son:
                     8) son:
                     8) son:
                  7) dau:
         4) Jack Marsh: b.1866? lived Glentunnel, m. Sarah
            5) Nancy Marsh: m. George Beaty
            5) Lill Marsh: m. George Michell
            5) Stan Marsh: m. Rose Smith,
               6) dau:
               6) son:
            5) George Marsh: m. Gladys..
               6) son:
                  7) dau:
                  7) dau:
            5) Corrie Marsh: m. Bill Smith
         4) James Marsh: b1868 WC to NZ 1913 d. NZ m. Ellen Howard
            5) Reginald Marsh: b.1889
               4) son:
               4) dau:
               4) dau:
               4) son:
                  5) son:
            5) Mary Alice Marsh: b.1981 m. Henry Burgess
            5) Jack Marsh: b.1892 m. Olive Maffey,
               4) son:
                  5) son:
                  5) son:
                  5) son:
                  5) son:
               4) son:
                  5) dau:
                  5) son:
                  5) dau:
               4) dau:
               4) son:
                  5) son:
                  5) dau:
               4) dau:             
            5) Charles Marsh: b.1892 d. 1972 m. Eliza Marian Oakley
               4) dau:
               4) son:
                  5) son:
                     6) son:
                     6) son:
                     6) son:
               4) son:
               4) dau:
               4) dau:
            5) Frederick James Marsh: m. Ann Wilson
               6) dau:
               6) dau:
            5) Grace Marsh: m.1 m.2 Ross m.3 Sandy Guthrie
            5) George Marsh: b.1901? WC d. NZ, m. Ivy Milne
               6) son:
               6) son:
               6) son:
               6) dau:
               6) dau:
               6) dau:
               6) son:
               6) dau:
         4) George (Leicester) Marsh: in army 25 yrs in India, m. Taylor, no children
             (Lived at Weston Colville?)
         4) Alice? Marsh: d. about age 25, unmarried, no children
      3) Louisa Marsh: b.1838 WC m. (Howard??/ Coulson??)
   2) Susan Marsh: b.1807 WC d. infant
   2) Susan Marsh: b. 1810 WC
   2) John Marsh: b.1812 d. infant
   2) Thomas Marsh: b.1814 WC d.1870 Mudgee NSW Australia m. Elizabeth Blanks
      3) William Henry Marsh: b.1833 WC d.1910 Mudgee, Aust. m.1 Harriet Symonds
          m.2 Sarah Hart 1895 in Penrith NSW
         4) Emma Augusta Marsh: b.1856 NSW
         4) James Symonds Marsh: b.1858 Mudgee NSW .m. Alice Ethel Boswell
            5) Leslie Marsh: b.1881 Mudgee, d. Queensland m.1914 Aileen Mary Wilkie
               6) son:
                  7) son:
                  7) dau:
                  7) son:
                     8) dau:
                     8) dau:
                     8) son:
                     8) son:
                     8) dau:
                     8) dau:
               6) son:
               6) dau:
         4) William Richard Marsh: b.1860 d.1925 m. Caroline Jane Gore
            5) William Albert Marsh:
            5) Herbert James Marsh:
            5) Arthur Wesley Marsh: b.1886 Mudgee d.1952 m. Rebecca Louisa Sheath
              6) dau:
              6) dau:
              6) son:
              6) dau:
              6) son:
                 7) son:
                    8) dau:
                 7) son:
            5) Mabel May Marsh:
            5) John Richard Marsh:
            5) Charles Symonds Marsh:
            5) Vincent David Marsh:
            5) Horace Marsh:
            5) Edwards Thomas Marsh:
            5) Maud Harriet Marsh:
         4) Jane A Marsh: b.1862 d.1867
         4) Albert William Marsh: b.1864 NSW
         4) Charles S Marsh: b.1865 d.1865
         4) Edward Marsh: b.1866 d.1867
         4) Arthur Wesley Marsh: b.1869 Burrundulla, Mudgee d.1945 m. Minnie A Fisher
            5) dau:
            5) dau:
            5) son:
            5) son:
            5) son:
            5) son:
            5) dau:
            5) dau:
            5) dau:
            5) son:
            5) son:
            5) dau:
         4) Albert Thomas Marsh: b.1874
      3) Absalom Marsh: b.1835 WC d.1855 age 20, on voyage to Australia
      3) Joseph Marsh:
      3) Tamar Marsh:b.1841 WC m.1860 James Ford in NSW
      3) Joseph Marsh: b.1843? WC
      3) Emma Marsh: b.1845 WC
      3) John Marsh: b.1854 WC, d.1855 on voyage to Australia.
      3) George H Marsh: b.1857 b.1857 in Australia
    ?3) Mary Marsh: b.1848 WC
   2) Jane Marsh: b.1816 WC
     ?3) Sarah Marsh:
   2) Ann Marsh: b.1819 WC m. Ambrose Heath, descendants living
   2) John Marsh: b.1822 WC
   2) Rebecca Marsh: b.1825 WC d. infant
   2) Charles Marsh: b.1827 WC d.1857 m. Sophia (Sparrow?) of Suffolk
      3) Daniel Marsh: b. 1857? Carlton, m. Elizabeth Plumb.
         4) Alice Marsh: b.1889? Aldbury Hertfordshire
         4) Ethel Marsh: b. 1890? Aldbury Hertfordshire
         4) Sidney Marsh: b.1892? Aldbury Hertfordshire
             Sidney was a Private (no. 3409) in the Australian Machine
             Gun Corps 3rd Company, and died 21 Sept 1917, and on the Ypres
             (Menin Gate) Memorial, he is recorded in Panel 31.  His parents were
             given as Daniel George and Elizabeth Anne Marsh of Stanbridge
             Crossing Leighton Buzzard (Bedfordshire), and he was described as
             a Native of Aldbury Hertfordshire England.
         4) dau?
   2) Rebecca Marsh: b.1829 WC m. Thomas Newman
       http://www.historyscape.org.uk/ancestors/614.html


POSSIBLE ORIGINS OF MARSH FAMILIES IN CAMBRIDGESHIRE:
(Some rambling thoughts! Apologies if this reads a little disjointed.  I keep adding in miscellaneous facts as they surface, sometimes they may seem a little out of context.)

Early Marshes in England- The Norman de Marisco family: Prior to 1066, there was a Norman family of de Marck (de Merc, de Merck, de Marck, de Marcq etc), which is said to be the ancestors of the Norman de Marisco (Marsh) family which arrived in England in 1066 with William the Conqueror.  A Francis/ Fransisco de Marisco is said by some to have been with William the Conqueror in 1066, but I have found out little about Francis to date.  An Adelulf de Marck/ de Marisco is also said to have fought at the battle of Hastings, and he is said to the the ancestor of the well known Somerset de Marisco family..  Adelulf de Marisco is also said to have had at least one estate in Cambridgeshire in about 1080.  One account says he had an estate in Cumberton, Cambridgeshire, and another says he had an estate at Croxton, Huntingdonshire, which is about 3 miles from Waresley, where the Pampisford Marshes held estates.   Comberton Cambridgeshire is about mid way between Croxton and Pampisford.   Some information on this Norman de Marisco family is on is on http://marshdna.arrrg.org/TreeNormanDeMariscoFamilies.htm .  [note:  the West Wratting Marshes don't seem to match what looks like being the DNA line of the de Mariscos, but the position is not totally clear, as it is possible that one part of the de Marisco line is from a de Montmorency male line which married a de Marisco heiress, and changed their name to de Marisco.  Much more research is needed.]

William the Conqueror is said to have established a "March" family in Cambridgeshire:  It is said that William the Conqueror rewarded a "March" family for their support in 1066, and set them up with lands in Cambridgeshire.  March families by the 1400s seem to be centred around Isle Ely in Cambridgeshire.  There is a town called "March" about 25 miles north of Cambridge City.  The early de Marisco/ Marsh family often spelled their name de Merc/ de Merck/ de Marck etc.  Perhaps "March" is a derivation from "Merc/ Marck"? 

Is the March and Marsh family one and the same?:  Is it possible that the de Mariscos/ Marshes of Isle of Ely area, and the Marches of Isle of Ely area, were the same family, and descended from the de Marcq/ de Marcks?  In more recent times, Marsh and March have often been used as variant spellings of the same name in Cambridgeshire.  (It is curious, but by the 1841 census, only 3 male Marches were living in Cambridgeshire, but many Marshes-  had Marches died out, or changed their name to Marsh?)  I note under the Heraldry section, (http://marshdna.arrrg.org/heraldry.htm ) the fact that the "March" Coat of Arms, which is believed to relate to the Cambridgeshire March family, is almost identical to the Coat of Arms of Richard Marsh, brother of Dr Herbert Marsh sometime Bishop of Peterborough.   (Peterborough is about 12 miles west of the town of March.)  This Herbert Marsh was born at Faversham Kent, but I don't know if his line traced back to Cambridgeshire, which may be suggested, if he used the Cambridgeshire March coat of arms.  A very similar Coat of Arms was used by another Marsh family of a London merchant in the 1600s.  There are also other recorded uses of similar Arms by Marshes.  This March/ Marsh coat of arms had lions heads on it, while the very early de Marisco coat of arms had a rampant lion.

Sir Stephen de Marisco:  In about 1174, a Sir Stephen "de Marisco" (Marsh) was born, and he lived around Isle of Ely in Cambridgeshire.   http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=21918#s2   He was lord of Newton, Walsoken, Tid, and St Giles, and other areas.  (areas about 10 miles north of "March" township.)  His son was Jeffrey/ Geoffrey "Marsh".   

Sir John de Marisco of Essex:  A Sir John Marsh of the Norman family lived in Essex, and had some land interests in Cambridgeshire in the 1100s. (Possibly including a location about 6 miles from West Wratting?)  This Sir John was a descendant of Adelolf de Marisco who fought at the battle of Hastings.  Sir John "had 10 pounds in rent in Cumberton Cambridgeshire between 1189, and 1201, the gift of King John & White Roding, Essex." White Roding is about 25 miles NE of the centre of London.  There is a town of Comberton about 14 miles west of West Wratting, or 8 miles NW of Pampisford.  Current indications are that West Wratting Marshes DNA tested, don't match the DNA of a documented descendant of Adelolf de Mariscos.

Jeffrey Marsh:  Jeffrey/ Geoffrey Marsh (living 1267, son of Sir Stephen de Marisco) had a daughter Desiderata/ Desiree, his heiress, who is said to have married a "Sir Roger Colville of Carlton Colville (Suff.)".  http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=21918#s2   "Carlton Colville" is on the East of Suffolk, near Lowestoft, and there appears to have been a de Coleville born there in 1235 at least.   A de Coleville family were from about 1200, Lords of the Manor at "Weston Colville", Cambridgeshire, the village 1 mile from West Wratting, and 1 mile from "Carlton".   The Weston estates seem to have come into the de Coleville family in about 1200, when William de Coleville, Lord of Castle Bytham (Lincs.) married heiress Beatrice de Stutville. William died in 1230, leaving his son Roger de Coleville as heir.  This Roger may have died about 1252.  (See also, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s030/f298586.htm   , something seems confusing to me here!  The William de Colville who died 1230 seems to have had a wife Maud, not Beatrice.  Roger has a wife Beatrice.  Could be there is some confusion in the different records?)  I had supposed the Roger de Coleville of Weston Colville, may have been the same person as the Sir Roger de Colville who married Jeffrey Marsh's daughter.  I thought this might link by marriage at least, a Marsh family to Weston Colville very early on.  However, I can't yet determine if the two Roger de Colvilles are the same person.  The records seem a little confusing to me. (Jeffrey/ Geoffrey was a common name in the Norman de Marisco family in the early years prior to 1200.   When the name de Marisco had evolved into Marsh in common usage, the name "Jeffrey" seems particularly rare in Marsh families in England.   There are only about 23 "Jeffrey/ Geoffrey Marsh" records on the IGI records from about 1560 to 1760 for the whole of England, and almost all of these were in Cambridgeshire, with only one or two in adjoining counties.  About two thirds of these Jeffrey Marshes were in the village of Carlton.  Carlton is about 1 mile from Weston Colville.  Is the unusually high frequency of Jeffrey Marshes in Carlton significant?) 

Jeffrey de Marisco is described as the "last of the male line". However, similar claims of various de Mariscos being the "last of the male line" in other parts of England, proved inaccurate, and in those other cases there were many male lines from cousins.  Jeffrey may not have had sons, but his father or grandfather may have left other male lines in the area.  As most of the rights to land stemmed specifically from Sir Stephen, apparently being the first holder in the de Marisco family, these may not have been claimable by Sir Stephen's male cousins.   http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=21918&strquery=Marisco

The de Coleville family:  The de Coleville family seems to keep cropping up.  When the de Colevilles inherited (mid 1200s?) the estates of Jeffrey Marsh, they obtained the estates in the Isle of Ely area about 12 miles north of March. (eg Tydd St Giles, Newton etc.)  A Geoffrey de Colville owned the Manor at "March" in 1328.  This Geoffrey was possibly (???) a descendant of the daughter and heiress of Geoffrey de Marisco/ Marsh.  Is it possible the town of March was earlier associated in some way with the de Marisco/ Marsh family? http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=21902   Is it possible that  "March" may be a name derived from "de Marck/ de Merc". 

Stibbington de Mariscos:  http://www.cb5.co.uk/stmedard2.htm   http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66180 These were early de Mercs in the general region, and may have some significance.   A Henry de Marisco/ de Merc was lord of the Manor of Stibbington some time between 1147-1167.  Stibbington is about 20 miles west of March.  (In Huntingdonshire?)    Henry had a son Eustace de Merc. (The Adelolf de Marisco who fought at the battle of Hastings, fought in the retinue of Eustace II, Count of Bologne, and held lands in England under Eustace II.  He was believed to be related to Count Eustace, and possibly even related on the direct male line to Eustace. There was a Eustace de Merc associated with Chesterton Cambridgeshire, and Royston who seems to unquestionably be connected to the de Marisco family of Adelolf de Marisco who fought at the battle of Hastings.  http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66165 )   In 1211, there were brothers John & William de Merc in the area.  In 1219, a Walter de Merc was associated with Sibson, Stibbington, and Wansford.  There was a John de Merc in the area 1286 and 1322.  A daughter of John de Merc married a St Medard, and when her son Nicholas St Medard inherited de Merc estates, he took the name de Merc.  In turn his sons took the name Semark, (St Mark). http://www.cb5.co.uk/StMedard1.htm  (NOTE: I have established that the de Marisco/ de Merc family of Stibbington were descended from the Norman de Marisco family, and related to the de Mariscos of White Roding, Dunmow etc.)

Following are internet references to further members said to be of the same family.  'Marris1'Index links to: Lead / Letter Families covered: Marisco of Cameley, Marisco in Ireland, Marisco of Huntspill, Marris of Kelsey, Mareys of South Elmsall BLG1952 reports that the following Osbert was "a cadet of the Vicomtes de Marcq". Osbert de Marcq (a 1087, to Northamptonshire) m. "a lady of a Breton family" 1. Adeluf or Alulf or Athelwulf or Allan de Marcq (a 1066)   m. _ de la Launde (dau of William de la Launde de Patry)   A. Geoffrey de Marck (a 1129)   m. Emmeline   i. William de Marisco of Bickerton (a 1166)   a. William de Marisco   (1) William de Marisco (a 1230)   b. Robert de Marisco   ii.+ other issue - Simon, Hugh, Stephen, Paganus   B. Jordan de Marck or de Insula (d before 1155)   m. Hedwisa de Redvers (dau of Baldwin de Redvers)   i. Geoffrey de Marisco (d c1188)   a. Robert de Marisco (a 1166, 1217)   m. _ Comyn (d c1220, sister of John Comyn, Archbishop of Dublin)   (1) William de Marisco of Huntspill, Cameley and Lundy Island (b before 1162, d after 1230)   m. Lucy de Alneto (dau of Alexander de Alnmeto, lord of Cameley)   (A) Jordan de Marisco of Huntspill, Cameley, etc (d 1234)   (i) William de Marisco of Huntspill, Cameley, etc (b before 1213, d 1284)   m1. Margery (d after 1268)   (a) William de Marisco (dvpsp)   m. Bertha   (b) John de Marisco of Cameley, etc (b before 1254, d 1285)   m. Olive FitzDavid (dau of Milo FitzDavid of Iverk)   ((1)) Herbert de Marisco or de Mareys of Huntspill, Cameley, etc (b 1276, d 1326-7) - continued below   m1. Sybilla de la Haye (dau of Walter de la Haye, Escheator of Ireland)   m2. (before 1316) Isabella de Tracey (dau of Sir John de Tracey of Woolcombe)   ((2)) Sir William de Marisco in Lincolnshire (a 1300)   m2. Matilda   (ii)+ other issue - Richard of Ballymasty, Jordan (a 1271)   (2) Walter de Marisco (d before 1192)   (3) Jordan de Marisco (a 1192)   (A) William de Marisco of Avening (a 1234)   m. Matilda   (4) Geoffrey de Marisco or Marsh, Justiciar of Ireland (b before 1171, d 1245)   m1. _ Esserley   (A) William de Marisco or Marsh (b before 1203, d 1242)   m. Matilda (niece of Henry of London, Archbishop of Dublin)   (i)+ issue (dsp) - William, Hugh   (B) John de Marisco or Marsh (d before 1285)   m1. Mabel de Valoignes (dau of Hamo de Valoignes by a dau of Richard de Burgh)   (i) Robert de Marisco or Marsh of Esserby and Kirton in Lindsey   (ii) John de Marisco or Marsh   m2. Alice   (iii) Joan de Marisco or Marsh (d 1225)   m. Theobald Walter, 2nd Chief Butler of Ireland (d 1230)   (iv)+ other issue - Walter, Henry, Thomas   m2. (by 1217) Eva de Birmingham (d c1226, dau of Robert de Birmingham)   (C) Robert de Marisco or Marsh (d before 1240)   m1. Matilda Twigsworth   (i) Walter de Marisco (dsp)   m2. Margaret de Riddlesworth (dau of Walter de Riddlesworth, Lord of Bray)   (ii) Christiana de Marisco (b c1235, dsp 1312)   m. Ebulo de Geneva (d c1259)   m3. (before 1232) Alice Lacy (dau of Hugh de Lacy, Lord, widow of Roger Pipard)   (5) ? Richard de Marisco, Sheriff of Dorset & Somerset, Chancellor, Bishop of Durham (d 1226)   (6) daughter   m. _ Travers   ii. Elinor de Marisco possibly fits here   m. Thomas FitzMaurice (d 1213)     Herbert de Marisco or de Mareys of Huntspill, Cameley, etc (b 1276, d 1326-7) - continued above m1. Sybilla de la Haye (dau of Walter de la Haye, Escheator of Ireland) 1. Stephen de Mareys of Cameley, Huntspill, etc (b c1304)   m. Alice de Montacute (dau of William de Montacute)   A. Stephen de Mareys (dvpsp c1349) 2. William de Mareys in Lincolnshire (d before 16.11.1364)   m. Mary de Cantwell (dau of Raymond de Cantwell)   A. Thomas Mareys of Ingoldmells, Lincolnshire (b before 1343, d 1393/4)   m. Agnes Sybsey (dau of William Sybsey of Ingoldmells) i. Robert Mareys of Ingoldmells (d before 05.07.1419)   m. _ Stott   a. Thomas Mareys of Ingoldmells and North Kelsey (b before 1398, d before 05.02.1462/3)   m. Katherine Hansart (dau of John Hansart)   (1) Robert Marris (b before 1441, d before 22.07.1487)   m. Alice Carlton (d 18.03.1477)   (A) Simon Marris (b 1458, d before 23.07.1509)   (i) John Marris of Kelsey and Rothwell (b before 1488, d 1552)   m. Agnes Bell (d before 10.07.1602)   (ii)+ other issue - Lawrence of Owersby (d before 07.05.1547), Nicholas of Wainfleet (d 1553)   (2) Simon Mareys (a 1485) 3. Walter de Mareys of Dodyndale. Kent   m. ?? (dau of Raymond, Archdeacon of ???)   A. Richard de Mareys of Canterbury (a 1425)   i. John Mareys (d before 28.07.1547)   a. Thomas Mareys in Kent (a 1460, chaplain)   b. William Mareys (dsp 31.08.1459, squire to King Henry V)   m1. Joan Langley (d 31.10.1431, dau of William de Langley of Knolton, Sheriff of Kent)